§7 “Whoever kills a person (unjustly)….Quran 5:32

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§7: “Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

Quran & Hadith Contradictions & Misconceptions

Quran 5:32 has been so misquoted, adulterated, dissimulated, that it is necessary to openly discuss it and examine its real meaning to dispel further falsehoods told around it.


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Quran 5:32


This morning, 10.10.10 on BBC, “Sunday Morning Live” I heard an Sunni Imam, Ajmal Masoor, who is also a politician say:

“Whoever kills a person [innocent person]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

I immediately was very disturbed that this Imam could use the BBC to disseminate dissimulations to millions of viewers unchallenged. Why do I accuse Imam Masoor of dissimulation? Let us first examine the original text, with different translations and assess for ourselves.
(Note: That remark has been edited out of the iPlayer version:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vf0x0/Sunday_Morning_Live_Episode_13/  ) [1]
Different translations of Quran: 5:32

[5.32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land. (U of Michigan’s translation.)

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YUSUFALI: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
PICKTHAL: For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah’s Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth.
SHAKIR: For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our messengers came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.
Bijan Moeinian: Based upon this incidence, I decreed to the children of Israel (and such passages are missing in the existing bibles except a few verses in Thalmud) that: “Whoever kills a human being (unless the latter being guilty of murder or spreading corruption on earth) should be looked upon as though he has killed the entire humanity and whoever saves a life should be considered as the savior of whole mankind.” However, in spite of many Prophets which came to them with undeniable miracles, the majority of them chose to disregard the Divine laws.
Muhd Ahmed Scimira: That is why We decreed for the children of Israel that whosoever kills a human being, except (as punishment) for murder or for spreading corruption in the land, it shall be like killing all humanity; and whosoever saves a life, saves the entire human race. Our apostles brought clear proofs to them; but even after that most of them committed excesses in the land.
Sher Ali: That is why We decreed for the children of Israel that whosoever kills a human being, except (as punishment) for murder or for spreading corruption in the land, it shall be like killing all humanity; and whosoever saves a life, saves the entire human race. Our apostles brought clear proofs to them; but even after that most of them committed excesses in the land. Q: 5:32 alt
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Analysis of the various translations of Quran 5:32


It is quite apparent that “Whoever kills a person….it is as though he killed all mankind” is completely misleading and dishonest and is intended as a dissimulation. It is as though it is saying that Allah disapproves of killing (of any kind) i.e. “whoever kills… is killing mankind.” It is misleading because it is out of context and it was abbreviated deliberately to deceive those not familiar with the Quran. Because when the verse is read in full it implies that “when the person is a murderer, or someone who inciting sedition,” that killing him is justified. And in the eyes of Muslims, all non-Muslims who reject Allah and Islam are “spreading corruption” and are legitimate targets to be killed. But it does imply (to Muslims) that killing another (innocent) Muslim would be synonymous to killing all mankind. (That, I believe was Muhammad’s intended meaning of that verse.)

Umar ibn Kathir (1301-1373) – Tafsir


Let me quote from Umar ibn Kathir (1301-1373) a foremost Tafsir(interpreter) writer, (another source to illustrate that this concept is not unique or bigoted or modern.) [3] :

So, strictly speaking, verse 5:32 is only applicable to the children of Israel (the verse says it). Any way, to be fair, we shall ignore this limitation and concentrate on the wider meaning:

On the surface of it, the first sentence (Islamists often quote only the first sentence, conveniently hiding the next sentence) of verse 5:32 seems very munificence and non-violent. What does the next sentence say? It says clearly that even when Allah sent His messengers many people disbelieved them. Muhammad was one of such messengers, the best and the last. Therefore, “those who disbelieve in Muhammad and Allah (i.e. the non-Muslims) are the transgressors. Evidently, the non-Muslims are the mischief-makers on earth. Logically, these non-Muslims do not fall under the purview of the merciful provisions of verse 5:32. In simple language, this means: verse 5:32 is applicable only to the Muslims. To confirm this, let me quote ibn Kathir  the foremost Tafsir writer:

Beginning  of Kathir’s quote

(if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) Saving life in this case occurs by not killing a soul that Allah has forbidden (A Muslim.) So this is the meaning of saving the life of all mankind, for whoever forbids killing a soul without justification, the lives of all people will be saved from him.” Similar was said by Mujahid;

[وَمَنْ أَحْيَـهَا]

(And if anyone saved a life…) means, he refrains from killing a soul. Al-`Awfi reported that Ibn `Abbas said that Allah’s statement,

[فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً]

(it would be as if he killed all mankind. .) means, “Whoever kills one soul that Allah has forbidden killing, is just like he who kills all mankind.” Sa’id bin Jubayr said, “He who allows himself to shed the blood of a Muslim, is like he who allows shedding the blood of all people. He who forbids shedding the blood of one Muslim, is like he who forbids shedding the blood of all people.” In addition, Ibn Jurayj said that Al-A`raj said that Mujahid commented on the Ayah,

[فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً]

(it would be as if he killed all mankind,) “He who kills a believing soul (believer in Islam) intentionally, Allah makes the Fire of Hell his abode, He will become angry with him, and curse him, and has prepared a tremendous punishment for him, equal to if he had killed all people, his punishment will still be the same.” Ibn Jurayj said that Mujahid said that the Ayah,

[وَمَنْ أَحْيَـهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً]

(and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) means, “He who does not kill anyone, then the lives of people are safe from him.”

End of Kathir’s quote.

There you are! This tafsir by Kathir says when a Muslim is killed it is as if the entire humanity is killed. When an infidel is killed it has no relevance. Similarly, when a Believer’s (i.e. Muslim’s) life is saved it is as if the entire humanity is saved. You see, in the Qur’an and in Islam what matters most is the lives of Muslims and not the lives of infidels.   [4]

Why do the erudite Islamists of the Fiqh Council of North America want to hide this truth?

This answer can also be found in the Qur’an.

Please note: there are at least 18 verses in the Qur’an which ask for the pre-emptive murder of the kafirs (infidels). But, it is not that simple to annihilate all the unbelievers just like that. It needs time, patience, plan, strategies, weapons and pretexts to wage a campaign of total slaughter of the non-Muslims. We observe this clever procedure is followed by the true Islamists and the suicide bombers. Even the former Prime Minister of Malaysia , Dr Mahathir Mohammad had asked the Muslims to acquire modern weapons to wage a war against the Jews. He purposely, did not mention the entire non-Muslim population, simply because his country is precariously dependent upon the investment of these infidels.

When the situation does not permit the Islamists to openly declare the murder of infidels, Allah asks them not to be friendly with them. Here are a few verses that tell the Muslims not to befriend the non-Muslims:

Do not take unbelievers as friends; caution is necessary to befriend the unbelievers…3:28

3:28 Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliyâ (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allâh in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allâh warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allâh is the final return.

In pure Islamic Paradises one will surely note this verse being fully practised. You will observe very little co-operation between the Muslims and the non-Muslims. The interaction between the aggressive Muslims and the feeble non-Muslim minority is almost non-existent. In some Islamic societies (like Malaysia , Brunei ) Muslims are not even allowed to patronize non-Muslim restaurants and eateries. In an Islamic State like Brunei , there are signboards in Malay language inside all non-Muslim restaurants stating, “Bukan Makanan orang Islam (food here is not for the Muslims)”. Similar warnings are also implied in Malaysia or in other Islamic countries.

This is the limit of tolerance and friendship (with infidels) in Islam!

Now, when the Islamists migrate to infidel lands, they simply hide those truths. They become sheer hypocrites. Outwardly, they pretend to show a friendly face, but inwardly, they remain as hateful, vicious and cantankerous towards the non-Muslim as before. Why should they have this double-face?—one might wonder. Once again, the answer is also contained in the above verse (3:28). This verse tells the Muslims to exercise caution when befriending the infidels. In fact, what it really means is:  when weak, the Muslims are allowed to be hypocrites in dealing with the non-Muslims. They are permitted to tell lies and hide the truth about their religion.

Once again, I will prove my assertion by quoting from ibn Kathir

Start of Kathir’s quote:

The Prohibition of Supporting the Disbelievers

…………………………………………………………

Allah said next,

[إِلاَ أَن تَتَّقُواْ مِنْهُمْ تُقَـةً]

(unless you indeed fear a danger from them) meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said, “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curst them.” Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, The Tuqyah (Taqiyya) is allowed until the Day of Ressurection.” Allah said,

[وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ]

End of Kathir’s quote.

Islam even forbids Muslims to be in friendly terms with their non-Muslim parents or kindred. In Islamic parlance, even verbal criticism of Islam means oppression. If a non-Muslim father or a non-Muslim brother of a convert (to Islam) utters any words and/or makes any grimaces that is offensive to the nascent Muslim convert, it is deemed to be oppressive/blasphemy. Therefore, as per Islamic rule a retaliation becomes due. Muslims are now allowed to murder them even though they might be their father, brother or sister.

Do you not believe this? Read the following Qur’anic verse.

The believers should not take even their fathers, brothers, or sons as friends if they resist God and Muhammad; these types of believers are the party of God, that is, the believers cannot be friendly with the unbelievers even though they are their blood… 58:22

58:22 You (O Muhammad) will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), even though they were their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred (people). For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with Ruh (proofs, light and true guidance) from Himself. And We will admit them to Gardens (Paradise) under which rivers flow, to dwell therein (forever). Allah is pleased with them, and they with Him. they are the Party of Allah. Verily, it is the Party of Allah that will be successful. (ibn Kathir)

Concluding Comments Ending Dissimulation:


Quran 5:32 Has either been used ignorantly or surreptitiously in such a way as to portray, innocently or maliciously, the munificence of Islam by the simply contraction of the verse to the following and saying the Quran says,
Whoever kills a person……it is as though he has killed mankind.”
This implies that the Quran believes killing another person is abhorrent and it is not Islamic. But as the above has shown, the contraction has altered the meaning of the verse 5:32 altogether and is a dissimulation. However for a non-Muslim to arrive at such a conclusion would appear bigoted, thus it was necessary to quote, at lengths, Tafsirs from respected Muslims like Umar ibn Kathir to provide the irrefutable evidence needed to show authentication.

This article should put to rest any further ambiguity regarding Qur’an 5:32

References:

[1] IPlayer:SundayMorningLive: Ajmal Masoor: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vf0x0/Sunday_Morning_Live_Episode_13/
[2] Alternate translations of Quran 5:32 http://www.islamawakened.com/Quran/5/32/default.htm
[3] Umar ibn Kathir (1301-1373): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Kathir
[4] ibn Kathir’s Tafsir: http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/AbulKasem50808.htm



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    • mbplee

      Rafeeque thank you for your links. Link 1 states:
      “According to Islam it is a great sin to kill an innocent person, and anyone who does so will suffer great torment in the hereafter:

      …So We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another person – unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth – it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur’an 5: 32)

      As we can see from the above verse, killing one innocent person is regarded as equivalent to killing all of mankind. In another verse, the importance that the faithful attach to life is expressed in these terms:

      “Those who do not call on any other god together with Allah and do not kill anyone God has made inviolate, except with the right to do so, and do not fornicate; anyone who does that will receive an evil punishment” (Qur’an 25: 68)”

      But the Quran also states: Qur’an:8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
      So it is clear that, “an infidel can never be an innocent person.” Therefore, killing infidels is totally justified in Islam. In fact all Jihad killings can be justified as retaliation for rejecting Allah.

      In Link 2: “”If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum,grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.”
      [Al-Qur’an 9:6]”

      Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” “People of the Book” refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. This was one of the final “revelations” from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad’s companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

      So if the infidel is not willing to repent and accept Allah as his god, he should be killed. There is no other alternative, is there?

      That is my perspective.

      • Jalal Kassab

        the quran talks about not to go to extreme with your religion, this is what this post is wanting to conclude. The Imam gave the verse and the sanctity of life, yet some arguments that killing innocent people is acceptable. It is not.
        Qur’an:8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
        NO. This does justify, “an infidel can never be an innocent person.”
        God i stalking and saying “I”. He is not saying Mohammed because He is named here is an “Apostle”. Furthermore this Chapter 8 in the Quran is in a war context, it is not about killing your neighbour or warring with your neighbour about having different beliefs. This is about when you are being attacked.
        The context you preface and your interpretations is not found in mainstream of Islam and you and the extremist share a perverted view of Islam only due to your misunderstanding and lazy interpenetration.

      • mbplee

        Jalal Kassab, Thank you for your comments. I would not expect any other reply from a Muslim. But we have each to interprete the Quran as it appears to us and not according to how you want us to interprete it. Muslims should be realistic when they read their Quran and not attempt to window dress Islam. Just look around the world at the Islamic world when you interprete the Quran and ask yourself, why? Why are ISIL beheading other Arabs? or their captive Christians? Why? Are they misguided Muslims or are you?

      • Jalal Kassab

        Once again you post “infidel is not willing to repent and accept Allah as his god, he should be killed. There is no other alternative, is there?”
        Yes there is, you just have not collated all the evidence. Yet the substantially more verses about harmony and tolerance. They cant contradict each other and they don’t. It is your interpenetration of them and poor scholarly application.
        You have obviously not familiar with the numerous treaties that were made with both Christians and Jews and while many flourished with religions freedoms and where significant communities lived.
        Do they not forget it was the Muslim upon capturing Jerusalem the Patriarch Sophronius, a representative of the Byzantine government in 637 AD handed the keys to the city to the Muslims Caliph. After 600 years in exile the Muslims permitted the return of the Jews back in to the holy city with full religious freedoms.
        Furthermore, when the Jews were persecuted and expelled with the Muslims during the Spanish Inquisition of the late 14 Century in Europe they’re settled in the Muslim lands with full religious freedoms, another convenient fact forgotten, even to some less informed.
        DO they not remember the treaties made with the Christian and Jews even after the death of the prophet such as the treaty of Umar detailing the rights and privileges regarding the conquered people and the Muslims in Jerusalem. This treaty was signed by Umar and Patriarch Sophronius, along with some of the generals of the Muslim armies.

        When the Jews were being persecuted in Christian Europe as part of the purge of the Spainish Inquisition many came e to settle in the Muslim Lands.

        Over the past 100 years, this harmony has changed and has become less tolerant, it is called colonisation.

      • mbplee

        Jalal Kassab, Thank you for your comments. I believe that there is still a lot about Islam that you are not familiar about. Do you know the difference of Islam pre- and post- Medina and why? Do you know about the betrayal in Medina and the genocide that occurred there at the time of Muhammad?
        Do you understand the weapons of Taqiyya and Kitman, or do you even know what and why Muhammad abrogated Quranic verses, and do you know the Verse of the Sword, Quran 9:5, actually abrogated 124 verses referring to Peace in the Quran? Or that Jihad, Quran 2:215 is a mandate for all Muslims to obey? Or that the Quran has 109 verses that calls all Muslims to War?
        When you have collated all that, then I welcome your comments on my articles.

  1. Novak Djokovic

    Lesley Hazleton discussed some stereotypes about understanding the Quran:

    and here:

    • mbplee

      NovakDjokovic, Thank you. I finally managed (26.10.14) to update my Flash and saw all the videos you have presented. Unfortunately, I conclude that Lesley Hazelton is really an apologist for Muhammad and I disagree with her fundamental views on Islam. I believe she is misguided and rather biased.

  2. Reece

    You have understood it totally wrong because all you know is that one verse and have no wider knowledge. When God says ”we decreed to the children of Israel” he is talking about what he told the Jews to do previously.. because in the Talmud it says:

    ”FOR THIS REASON WAS MAN CREATED ALONE, TO TEACH THEE THAT WHOSOEVER DESTROYS A SINGLE SOUL OF ISRAEL, SCRIPTURE IMPUTES [GUILT] TO HIM AS THOUGH HE HAD DESTROYED A COMPLETE WORLD; AND WHOSOEVER PRESERVES A SINGLE SOUL OF ISRAEL, SCRIPTURE ASCRIBES [MERIT] TO HIM AS THOUGH HE HAD PRESERVED A COMPLETE WORLD”

    So your arguments are invalid.. God was talking about the whole of mankind, but he told the Jews first and he also says in the Quran he has not come to destroy the laws of which was before?

    But!!!
    The Jews turned away from God when they didn’t believe Jesus (peace be upon him) was the messiah.

    And the bible has been corrupted by man, which is proven by the highest Christian scholars, it was changed by Constantine
    and was infiltrated by Paul who was a agent sent by the Romans to destroy the true message of Jesus (peace be upon him)

    Paul was known as Saul before he changed his name. Saul persecuted Christians arresting and murdering them as he went from place to place.

    I pray for you brother.

    • mbplee

      reece Murda, thank you for your comments. You should really study what I have posted much closer than you have because you have entirely missed the point. The Quran is full of “dualism” and it is important that you are not misled by only reading one part of the Quran without the “dual” part. Typically like most Muslims you only see the part that suits your arguments.
      Let me quote from Umar ibn Kathir (1301-1373) a foremost Tafsir(interpreter) writer:
      Beginning of Kathir’s quote

      (if anyone killed a person (Muslim) not “in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land” – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) Saving life in this case occurs by not killing a soul that Allah has forbidden (Killing a Believer is Forbidden by Allah but not an infidel.) So this is the meaning of saving the life of all mankind, for whoever forbids killing a soul(a Muslim) without justification, the lives of all people will be saved from him.”
      End of Kathir’s quote.

      There you are! This tafsir by Kathir says when a Muslim is killed it is as if the entire humanity is killed. When an infidel is killed it has no relevance. Similarly, when a Believer’s (i.e. Muslim’s) life is saved it is as if the entire humanity is saved. You see, in the Qur’an and in Islam what matters most is the lives of Muslims and not the lives of infidels.
      Please note: there are at least 18 verses in the Qur’an which ask for the pre-emptive murder of the kafirs (infidels).[Killing of infidels is APPROVED BY ALLAH. Killing of Muslims (Believers, except for murderers and trouble makers) IS FORBIDDEN BY ALLAH.
      That is the dualism you do not seem to understand. You have to learn to be more discerning. Look it up yourself to confirm what I have quoted.

  3. Reece

    Surat An-Nisā 4:123 – 125 Paradise is not [obtained] by your wishful thinking nor by that of the People of the Scripture. Whoever does a wrong will be recompensed for it, and he will not find besides Allah a protector or a helper
    If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female – and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them.
    Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For Allah did take Abraham for a friend.

    I do not read what any other man says about a book I just read the book. it says the book is full and complete. it is also said that anything said after is lies. I don’t believe in hadiths. or any scholars understanding of verses because that is proven to cause corruption.

    Surat An-Nisā 4:49 – 50
    Hast thou not turned Thy vision to those who claim sanctity for themselves? Nay-but Allah Doth sanctify whom He pleaseth. But never will they fail to receive justice in the least little thing.
    Behold! how they invent a lie against Allah! but that by itself is a manifest sin!

    I have quoted from a book as to what it means its not what my own mind has come up with? Are you trying to say god told the Jews something then switched sides? God made the whole of mankind!!!. it says it was ”decreed upon the children of Israel” meaning told before to the jews.. And it says ”a soul” not a ”Muslim soul”
    -Surat Al-Baqarah 2:6
    Indeed, those who disbelieve – it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them – they will not believe

    Whoever that scholar or whoever he is,(I will not waste my time looking him up) he obviously is not learned and he should not be putting across his views on scriptures because he obviously knows nothing.

    Surat At-Tawbah 9:6 – 7
    If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to a place of security. That is because they are men without knowledge.
    How can there be for the polytheists a treaty in the sight of Allah and with His Messenger, except for those with whom you made a treaty at al-Masjid al-Haram? So as long as they are upright toward you, be upright toward them. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].

    Surat An-Nisā 4:29 – 31
    O you who have believed, do not consume one another’s wealth unjustly but only [in lawful] business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves [or one another]. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful.
    And whoever does that in aggression and injustice – then We will drive him into a Fire. And easy it is for Allah
    If you avoid the major sins which you are forbidden, We will remove from you your lesser sins and admit you to a noble entrance [into Paradise].

    I can quote a verse that can easily misquoted:

    Surat An-Nisā 4:74 – 76
    ”Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory – Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value)”

    (But it continues)

    And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and for those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: “Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!”
    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan.

    And another easily misquoted verse

    Surat An-Nisā 4:89 – 90
    ”They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-”
    -Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then Allah Hath opened no way for you (to war against them)

    Surat An-Nisā4:135
    O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

    Surat An-Nisā4:173
    But to those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, He will give their (due) rewards,- and more, out of His bounty: But those who are disdainful and arrogant, He will punish with a grievous penalty; Nor will they find, besides Allah, any to protect or help them.

    its is said that Muhammed (pbuh) was told by the angel Gabriel that he could go kill the infidels for there crimes against him and the Muslims and Muhammed refused and said he would not kill any of them because then none of there family would ever convert to the right path
    (paraphrasing)

    And jihad means ”struggle”
    Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) said ”The greatest Jihad is to battle your own soul, to fight the evil within yourself”

    Surat An-Nisā 4:60 -61
    Hast thou not turned Thy vision to those who declare that they believe in the revelations that have come to thee and to those before thee? Their (real) wish is to resort together for judgement (in their disputes) to the Evil One, though they were ordered to reject him. But Satan’s wish is to lead them astray far away.
    When it is said to them: “Come to what Allah hath revealed, and to the Messenger”: Thou seest the Hypocrites avert their faces from thee in disgust.

    Surat An-Nisā 4:171
    O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist – it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

    • mbplee

      reecemurda, thank you for your comments. This is not the place for extended discussions so my reply will be very brief. If you wish to discuss your doubts about Islam, try, posting at http://my.telegraph.co.uk/blogs/
      Referring to your quotes, they are all out of context with the whole of the Quran (and Ahadith), and you only quote that which suits your arguments. You have completely neglected taking into consideration of the extensive “abrogations” introduced by Muhammad nullifying the Meccan verses of the Quran but using those obsolete verses to support your arguments. Thus you have either not understood Islamic dualism, or overlooked it unscrupulously for the sake of Taqiyya, attempting to deceive or mislead your opponent. Hence most of your verses carry no currency because it is out of context. Let me illustrate: Your said:
      “And jihad means ”struggle”
      Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) said ”The greatest Jihad is to battle your own soul, to fight the evil within yourself””
      But the truth is:
      “Jihad Means ‘Inner Struggle’
      The Myth:

      Islam’s Western apologists sometimes claim that since the Arabic word, Jihad, literally means “fight” or “struggle,” it refers to an “inner struggle” rather than holy war.

      The Truth:

      In Arabic, “jihad” means struggle. In Islam, it means holy war.

      The Quran specifically exempts the disabled and elderly from Jihad (4:95), which would make no sense if the word is being used merely within the context of spiritual struggle. It is also unclear why Muhammad and his Quran would use graphic language, such as smiting fingers and heads from the hands and necks of unbelievers if he were speaking merely of character development.

      With this in mind, Muslim apologists generally admit that there are two meanings to the word, but insist that “inner struggle” is the “greater Jihad,” whereas “holy war” is the “lesser.” In fact, this misconception is based only on an a single hadith that Islamic scholars generally agreed was fabricated.

      By contrast, the most reliable of all Hadith collections is that of Bukhari. Jihad is mentioned over 200 times in reference to the words of Muhammad and each one carries a clear connotation to holy war, with only a handful of possible exceptions (dealing with a woman’s supporting role during a time of holy war).”

      Hence I recommend you study Islam in greater depth.
      AbdullahMuhammad

  4. Reece

    None of the verses were used out of context if you read Surat An-Nisā you’ll will see they are all totally in context.

    And there is 3 meanings of jihad actually.. the word is the same, its just different contexts you use them in.

    It is you who cannot understand that 1400 years ago things were much different than today, people used to ride around with swords as long as your leg, baby girls were buried alive in the sand as soon as they were born.. human sacrifice was out of control.. murdering was out of control And if them so called humans are willing to bury baby girls and sacrifice humans.. Do you think they could be changed by words? if they could and repent then that’s with God but if they cant and still want to make war and kill there is no wrong with killing someone who has killed or will kill..

    Like if someone today pulled a gun out on your family and was about to kill them.. would it be unjust for a policeman to laser dot and snipe them? No because there was no other way out of the situation a innocent life is worth more.

    All of the war verses are used in the context of war.. if the U.S came up with them verses no one would have a problem with them because they are logical? if your at war and someone tries to kill you and you kill them because there was no other choice or way out of the situation then its not your fault.
    But if you kill someone who wants peace, even if they are ”not innocent” then its a great sin.
    even a pagan who sacrifices humans it says if they want peace ” then Allah Hath opened no way for you (to war against them)”

    I am not saying all Muslims are innocent like with most things 99 percent do not follow properly.

    And Christians And Jews were before the quran was revealed, so obviously who do you think had greater armies.

    The quran is about abstaining from your desires and making your soul clean from sin.

    And I do not believe Bukhari at all in my opinion he done what Paul done to Christianity

    Surat Al-Baqarah 2:124
    And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, “Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people.” [Abraham] said, “And of my descendants?” [ Allah ] said, “My covenant does not include the wrongdoers.

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