Ahmadiyya Sect is Cause for Rise in Extremism

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Ahmadiyya is Cause for Rise of Extremism


Ahmadiyya and the Rise of its Extremism

[Author’s highlights or remarks in Bold Italics]

Cross posted from TheCult.info

On Wednesday 18 May,(2011) there will be a policy debate on “the rise of extremism internationally and its impact on Britain” hosted by the All Party Parliamentary Group for the “Ahmadiyya Muslim Community” in conjunction with the “Ahmadiyya Muslim Community UK” held in the House of Commons.

In order to register your interest in attending this event, you’ll need to write to the Ahmadiyya. That’s right, Kafka couldn’t have dreamt this up. In order to register your interest in attending a debate that will in all likelihood tar British (orthodox) Muslims with the brush of extremism and even terrorism, you have to write to a cult whose leader, Mirza Masroor in 2007 labelled all those who reject its founder (and self-claimed prophet) as Satan-worshippers.

(LORD AVEBURY’S PREDICTION OF IMPENDING AHMADI HOLOCAUST)

(Kingston Police found the Ahmadiyya to be trouble makers)

Of interest is the panel. We have Jemima Khan, who is known for her humanitarian work, but whose engagement with Muslim groups seems limited to patronage of the widely discredited Quilliam Group. We have Lord Avebury, who was flown out to Pakistan to enjoy the hospitality of Ahmadis, but not Muslims as far as I’m aware, and who last year preposterously talked of an impending “holocaust” of Qadiani Ahmadis, a conclusion he arrived at with scant evidence. Finally, he called for  a review of the Religious Hate Speech laws because the CPS didn’t find any actionable evidence in the “Ahmadiyya Hate Campaign” of 2010. They didn’t find any evidence because there wasn’t any. Kingston Police and the local council found the Ahmadiyya to be trouble makers. The press and media didn’t report the breakdown of the “Religious Hate” case with the same fanfare that they originally announced it. This was partly because they were complicit in the concoction of a flimsy case, openly talking of a leaflet that they’d never seen whilst misleading readers, viewers and listeners into believing that another quite ordinary leaflet that they did see was the leaflet that they were making the fuss about in the first place.

(Lord Avebury refers to Murder of Ahmadis; was Absolutely False)

In his blog post, Lord Avebury refers to a leaflet in a shop window in the UK encouraging the murder of Ahmadis. This was absolutely false. He’s conflating the “Deception of the Qadiani” leaflet, the contents of which were not hateful, never mind illegal according the CPS with another alleged leaflet, which we know now, thanks to the Kingston Police never actually existed.

(Ziauddin Sardar Erroneously refer to Ahmadis as “BRITISH MUSLIMS”)

And we also have Ziauddin Sardar, who referred to Ahmadis in his 2006 article in the   New Statesman as “British Muslims” and demanded “Islam must embrace different sects.” In a particularly uninformed passage, he wrote:

The major difference comes in the shape of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908), the Punjabi founder of the sect. Orthodox Muslims believe that Muhammad was the last Prophet, and there will be no prophets after him. Now, Ahmad did not call himself a prophet, but “claimed to be the expected reformer of the latter days, the Awaited One of the world community of religions” – in other words, the Mahdi and the Messiah rolled into one

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was born in 1839, not 1835, no matter what the Ahmadis say. And Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did repeatedly call himself a prophet, violating a fundamental principle of Islam, that Muhammad (saw) is the final prophet. In fact, the Qadiani Ahmadis proudly refer to Ghulam Ahmad as “A Prophet to Unite Mankind in the Latter Days” on their website. Sadar is a fairly liberal Muslim, who is respeted in some circles, but is by no means a scholar of Islam. More importantly, Sardar is dangerously unfamiliar with the esoterica of the Ahmadiyya cult. It’s rather like offering up a 16 year old to an experienced Scientologist. The latter will have the former hooked up to an e-meter before you can say Xenu.

(Ahmadiyya’s Campaign to Malign orthodox Muslims incites hatred)

The premise of the Ahmadiyya campaign to malign the law-abiding Muslim community is that the same extremism that sees murder on Ahmadis in foreign lands is on its way here, to the UK, and that Muslim thought leaders are inciting the “hatred” that will lead to (in Lord Avebury’s spectacularly disgraceful language) a “holocaust.” Muslims, by and large, abhor persecution, particularly given that they are more often than not, the victims of it. That this event should be held on the anniversary of the attacks on the Qadiani places of worship in Lahore is opportunistic and selfish. Over 30,000 Muslims have been murdered since the War of Terror was launched by America and its allies. The Ahmadiyya’s losses are broadly in proportion with the sad and tragic loss of life of all Pakistanis, Muslim, Ahmadi, Christian or otherwise. The point is that their suffering is not unique and to exploit that horrible day to continue to attack Muslims in the UK is short-sighted and its aim is to undermine the tolerance between the tiny Ahmadiyya community and the (orthodox) Muslims of the UK.

(The Hate Campaign by the Ahmadiyya was Paranoia)

Ahmadiyya seeks sympathy to enhance support power and prestige.

That the entire foundation of the “hate campaign” by the Ahmadiyya was found to be baseless seems to have been ignored by the same people who promoted the lies in the first place. The alleged “Kill a Qadiyani” leaflet imagined by a young Ahmadi girl in south London never existed. The arrest of a “young bearded man” she so vividly described as  distributing these imaginary leaflets in a sworn affidavit never happened. There is no hate campaign, except by the Ahmadiyya towards other Muslims. Their motive, like any cult, is power and prestige. This make it even easier for them to continue to extort money from their captive membership, who are kept in a constant fear of Muslims.

(Muslims are Uncomfortable that the Media gives Ahmadiyya a platform to voice the views of orthodox Muslims in their absentia)

What there is, is a growing discomfort amongst Muslims that the media gives a platform to the Ahmadiyya to voice in absentia the views of (orthodox) Muslims. It’s rather like letting 7th Day Adventists speak on behalf of the Church of England. Muslims are therefore quite rightly, educating each other on the true nature of the cult and its routine deception tactics. After all, if a Muslim girl marries an Ahmadi boy, the marriage is not Islamically valid. This has happened, and Muslims need to know why in 1974, the Ahmadiyya sect was declared a non-Muslim entity by consensus of all the leading Muslim scholars of the world in a meeting in Mecca, as well as being declared a non-Muslim minority by the National Assembly in Pakistan. This was not a measure taken lightly, as by nature, Islam is inclusive and encompasses a broad range of views.

Ahmadiyya is a cult promoting Islamophobia and have hypocritical ideologies

That it took a press release of a document two days before the event for Muslims to become aware that such a session is being held without adequate Muslim representation should be of deep concern to us. We don’t have the Qadianis. We just want them to be honest about who they are and to stop promoting Islamophobia at the highest levels. We also want the government to be keenly aware of the cult-like nature of the Ahmadiyya, a group that claims to be for “freedom.” but doesn’t allow freedom of opinion in its own ranks, that claims to be for “peace,” but creates an enormous fuss about a purported extremist threat in the UK based on a tissue of lies, that conflates deeply difficult issues in foreign lands with the markedly contrasting environment in the UK in order to curry political favour; a cult who claim to be for peace rings hollow when their members rejoice at Muslim suffering and whose senior members call for more drone attacks on Pakistan, So much for loyalty then.

Muslims are against violence towards minorities, we abhor it. We are also victims of violence abroad and at home in the UK. To have the constant barrage of Islamophobia bolstered by a vociferously anti-Muslim cult who claim to be the only true Muslims is especially galling. [1]

HATE AGAINST AHMADIS NOW RIFE IN BRITAIN (VIDEO)

Hate of Ahmadis in Britain

Hate of Ahmadis in Britain

MURDER IN THE NAME OF GOD(ALLAH) – VIDEO

This debate took place on 18th May 2011, held by The All Party Parliamentary Group to discuss the persecution of the Ahmadiyyas in Britain instead of its original agenda. See video:

Murder in the name of Allah

Murder in the Name of Islam

 

 

APPENDIX:

Appendix 1

Channel 4 and BBC on Hate Campaign

Submitted by DaggerOfTruth on Fri, 2010-12-17 21:20

Original by Mehboob Ahmed at: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=182647351762424

Recently Channel 4 and the BBC showed reports on the so called ‘Ahmadiyya Hate Campaign’.

BBC Interviews Anam Taha

The BBC showed an interview of a girl named Anam Taha who claimed that she received a leaflet which called for the killing of members from the Qadiani Ahmadiyya Cult. The Cult have used this propaganda campaign in an attempt to silence those who expose the reality of their strange beliefs so that young Muslims are immune to their proselytisation.  One such group is the Khatme Nubuwwat Academy London.  The Qadiani Ahmadiyya never cease to try to tarnish the image of Muslims so they can continue with their fradulent claim of being ‘The Only Peaceful Muslim Organisation’.

Where it All Started

In the Surrey Comet news dated Aug 27 – Sep 2 Omar Oakes (also known as Omar El-Ghmari) wrote in his article:  “A teenage ahmadiyya girl, who did not want to be named, said she was “shaken and scared” after being handed a leaflet written in urdu saying: “Kill a Qadiyani and doors to heaven will be open to you”. She said: I was coming back from shopping and a guy handed me the leaflet. While I read it he asked me to come back. I told him I was an Ahmadi girl and he demanded I return his leaflet, but I refused. “He was about 22 or 23 years old and had a long beard”. (http://www.spittoon.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Surreyahmadiflyer.jpg)

This leaflet in question was not handed to the police yet the girl claims she received it and she did not give it back.

One thing I noticed from this was she said: “I told him I was an Ahmadi girl” Now why would she have to clarify to the boy that she was a girl? Was it not obvious? Did she have a beard? (I just find it an odd she would say such a thing)

In a second article dated 14 October 2010, once again written by Omar Oakes it said: “Kingston police confirmed a teenage Ahmadi girl, who did not want to be named, gave them a statement claiming the leaflet, which was written in Urdu, said: “Kill a Qadiyani and doors to heaven will be open to you”.  Police said they were appealing for information, but were not in possession of the leaflet, which was allegedly handed to the girl outside the Bentall Centre in Kingston town centre.” (http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/archive/2010/10/14/news_wimbledon/8451429.Hate_campaign_discovered_against_Islamic_minority/)

Now going by both articles we can determine that the girl “received” the leaflet yet failed to provide it to the Police during her report. Why has this happened? Where did this leaflet which (supposedly) called for her death go missing?  Or why didn’t she phone the police immediately after receiving the leaflet?

Channel 4 Report

On Sunday 5th December 2010 a special report was broadcast on Channel 4 “Hate Crime Investigation Into Threats Against Ahmadi Muslims” by  Darshna Soni.  On two minutes and three seconds during this report (2:03) Darshna Soni stated:  “…Here in South London, we found leaflets being handed out calling on Ahmadis to be killed”.

Funny enough this leaflet she claimed that she found was not shown in the report, other leaflets written in Somali calling for a Qadiani butcher to be boycotted and a leaflet published by the Khatme Nubuwwat Academy London called “Deception of the Qadiyani” was shown. What’s more interesting is that not even the Police received these ‘death’ leaflets yet they were handed to Darshna Soni?

 

Somalian leaflet
KNA leaflet

(http://www.channel4.com/news/hate-crime-investigation-into-threats-against-ahmadi-muslims)

 

BBC Report

On 8 December 2010 the BBC then showed a report by Divya Talwar.  At twenty five seconds (0.25) Anam Taha (the girl who claimed she received the leaflet) said: “When I read that, I was kinda scared like wha..whats this really tryna say that kill us lot? Coz I was their alone I kinda got scared”

Whats important to notice is the way she seems uncertain about the event and also how she never explained that the guy who supposedly gave her the leaflet called her back, also at thirty seconds (0.30), she turns away from the camera looking up to her left and then says “because I was their alone I kinda got scared”

Throughout the interview she was unable to keep direct eye contact and her eyes kept jumping around. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11947734)

 

 

But what I found shocking after going back through both reports and studying them carefully was that Anam Taha (leaflet girl) was actually in the first Channel 4 report but she was not interviewed!

 

 

 

So if this girl was present in the company of Darshna Soni (Channel 4 reporter) why was she not interviewed?  Or if she was too ‘Scared’ to be interviewed why wasn’t a statement taken from her, considering she is the KEY & ONLY WITNESS TO HAVE RECEIVED THE LEAFLET?

Maybe the truth is that Anam Taha NEVER received any leaflet, she created this false report because she wanted to gain popularity within her Cult thinking that one day they will repay her the favour, We Muslims know that Qadianis are adept at such things!

 

Correspondence with Channel 4-Tahir Hussain

Recently Brother Tahir Hussain wrote a template to be sent to Channel 4 regarding the claim made by Darshna Soni she have received the leaflets:

 

To whom it may concern,

RE: Ahmadiyya News Report

On Sunday 5th December 2010 a special report was broadcast on Channel 4 at 7.30pm with regards to the “hate campaign” against the Ahmadiyya community. This news report is still available to view at the following URL on the Channel 4 website:

http://www.channel4.com/ne ws/hate-crime-investigatio n-into-threats-against-ahmadi-muslims

The correspondent for this news report, Darshna Soni, states on exactly two minutes and three seconds (2:03), “…Here in South London , we found leaflets being handed out calling on Ahmadis to be killed”. This statement by Darshna, suggesting Muslims are calling on Ahmadis to be killed, is a grave accusation of soliciting murder and one which should be taken very seriously as it maligns the Muslim community at large. The Police and the CPS found no such evidence yet Darshna clearly states “we found leaflets” to the effect that they are in her (or Channel 4) possession. I request either Channel 4/Darshna acknowledge that they have possession of these leaflets and they are handed over to the Police or Channel 4/Darshna make a full retraction statement and apologise to the Muslim community for making an accusation of soliciting murder through misleading the public by explicitly declaring to have such evidence in their possession. Thank you for your time and I anticipate your reply.

 

Today I received a reply:

Thankyou for your email – we have considered the points raised and are now in a position to reply.

The report centred on claims that a minority religious sect are being persecuted here in the UK , claims investigated by the police.

We understand that this is a sensitive issue and have had a huge response from all sides. There is strong public interest in this story and we felt it was an important issue to cover. This decision has been further vindicated by the fact that the matter was debated in the House of Commons, and by the number of comments we have received – many from mainstream Muslims thanking us for our report. We want to address your questions directly:

  • Firstly, we placed these issues in context – we made it clear that those issuing the threats were a minority of extremists. We also explained that many Muslims find the views of Ahmadis unacceptable.
  • The leaflets Darshna Soni refers to in her piece were indeed passed to the police, and were the subject of a hate crime investigation
  • We covered this issue from a variety of perspectives and we believe we fairly reflected the full spectrum of views.

As ever, our responsibility is to present the facts as we find them with a constant commitment to impartiality and balance. We feel this report meets that obligation.

We appreciate you taking the time to write to us, and your comments and feedback have been passed to the team that produced this report.

Best wishes,

Amy Lawson

Here is my last repsonse:

Thankyou for your reply, it is much appreciated.

I would like to know which police station the leaflet was passed on to by Darshna.

The issue at hand is a very serious one and it is more shocking that Darshna has managed to find those leaflets yet never showed them in her report which I find quite surprising, considering she showed a leaflet written in somali which called for the boycott of a ‘Specific’ shop in tooting and another named ‘Deception of the Qadiyanis’.

The girl (Anam Taha) who claimed to have received the leaflet did not even have one to provide to the police yet she claimed it was handed to her. Another thing I noticed in your opening footage of the report, Anam Taha was filmed by your channel yet she was not questioned by Darshna neither was a statement taken from her. This is really surprising that the key witness and the ONLY claiment of receiving the leaflet, was not interviewed.

I have substantial evidence that this leaflet (calling for the death of Qadiyanis) never existed and was all part of the Ahmadiyya propaganda campaign in order to silence us Muslims who know the reality and depth of their beliefs.

For the record: the police have stated that they haven’t received any such leaflet calling for the death of the Ahmadiyya members.

I would appreciate your help in notifying me which police station the leaflet was provided to as this is a very serious situation and as a Muslim I totally condemn the killing of members of the Ahmadiyya organisation or any other innocent human being.

 

Background

As I await their response I urge all Muslims to ACTIVELY refute the fitnah of this cult who are stealing our identity by deception! I remember telling Muslims about the fitnah of this cult late last year, many laughed it off and others claimed I was just starting ‘Chain Messages’. Within the last year the fitna of this cult has dramatically increased especially in the UK and the USA! The media of both nations continue to highlight the Qadianis as being the only peaceful group. [2]

 

UK Qadiani bus campaign

 

(2) Copy of post to myT:

cheech, Sorry the real story is rather complicated. I will try to explain. An Ahmadi girl, in order to create hate against “orthodox Muslims” said that there were posters being handed out by orthodox Muslims to “kill Ahmadis in UK.”

its(Ahmadi) aim is to undermine the tolerance between the tiny Ahmadiyya community and the (orthodox) Muslims of the UK.

That the entire foundation of the “hate campaign” by the Ahmadiyya was found to be baseless seems to have been ignored by the same people who promoted the lies in the first place. The alleged “Kill a Qadiyani” leaflet imagined by a young Ahmadi girl in south London never existed. The arrest of a “young bearded man” she so vividly described as  distributing these imaginary leaflets in a sworn affidavit never happened. There is no hate campaign, except by the Ahmadiyya towards other Muslims. Their motive, like any cult, is power and prestige. This make it even easier for them to continue to extort money from their captive membership, who are kept in a constant fear of Muslims.

What there is, is a growing discomfort amongst Muslims that the media gives a platform to the Ahmadiyya to voice in absentia the views of (orthodox) Muslims. It’s rather like letting 7th Day Adventists speak on behalf of the Church of England. ”

On the basis of that story of the leaflets to “Kill Qadianis” Lord Eric Avebury, opportunist Liberal Politician and a Buddhist by religion, decided to come to the defence of the “persecuted Ahmadis.” So he promptly arranged for a “All Party Parliamentary Group to discuss what he termed the “genocide of the Ahmadis.”

But the Police could find no evidence to support that leaflet not locate the bearded distributor, and decided that it was a propaganda hoax. So Lord Eric Avebury had to very quickly change the topic into some insipid topic because that leaflet could not and until this day cannot be produced. Such is the nature of the Ahmadiyya cult to create situations that they can gain support, sympathy, and donations for their cult movement.”


Love for All, Hatred For None – Video


Hypocrisy


CONCLUSIONS

Why does a religion, The Ahmadiyya,  with a motto like, “Love for All, Hatred For None” receive such scorn and rejection from the rest of the 1.3 Billion Islamic world?
The only conclusion is that the Ahmadiyya are not sincere and provoke the other Muslims with insults and blaspheme their Muslim faith. These insults and blasphemy extends to the Christian faith as well without the Ahmadis even being consciously aware that they are antagonising people and generating hate with their dogmatism. Ahmadis are not aware of their faults because  their indoctrinated beliefs are so deeply etched into their subconscious through their “Mind Control Techniques” that they are completely in convinced that they are right in their beliefs and everyone else is wrong. This arrogant exclusive inflexible mindset has made them feel righteous and condemned all others as wrong, This has brought derision and anger and hate upon themselves as it involves their issuing insults and blasphemy against the other faiths. What makes it worse is the Ahmadi’s determined stance that their views are right and others are wrong, and that they are the poor victims, when in fact it is the Ahmadis who are attempting to undermine the beliefs and faiths of 2.5 Billion Muslims and Christians with their illogical ideologies by distorting and blaspheming Muslim and Christian holy Scriptures. But they are not able to see themselves and their folly.
The manner by which Ahmadi thoughts are controlled are by these rules that they strictly impose on their members (Bold italics are authors comments):

Ahmadiyya leadership – present and past – rules

  • forbids its members to visit Muslim mosques or worship with Muslims [this is to ensure that Ahmadis do not learn of orthodox Muslim ideologies and rituals that differ from the Ahmadi ideologies. Isolation. Mind Control]
  • forbids and/or strongly discourages intermarriage with Muslims [this ensures that the partner many not influence or dilute the views of Ahmadiyya. Isolation. Mind Control.]
  • forbids its members to participate in funerals and most religious and/or social events organized by Muslims  [this ensures that the partner many not influence or dilute the views of Ahmadiyya. Isolation. Mind Control]
  • forbids its members from publishing articles, books or magazines about the Ahmadiyya or critical of it except with written permission, and that only with editing by the leadership [this is to ensure only one view of the Ahmadiyya ideologies. Strict Control of views from Ahmadis.]
  • strongly discourages members to read and/or discuss current Muslim scholars, ideas, and other relevant current events [this is to ensure that Muslim scholars will not be able to outwit or outmanoeuvre the Ahmadi in discussions on points of doctrine and prove him wrong or convince them to change their opinions abour Islam or Ahmadiyya. Control of access to alien views. Mind Control.]
  • there are no attributive (good) references to current Muslim authorities in any speech or publication [Ahmadiyya’s fundamental intention was to serve as mercenary to the British Raj, hence the Quran was abrogated to meet these ends. Thus Ahmadiyya views were contrary to the ideology of Islamic Jihad, and thus orthodox Islam. Hence it was not possible to refer to any Islamic authority to support such deviations. It was unique Ahmadi ideology. Only Ahmadi views were tolerated. Mind Control.]
  • forbids members from engaging in any discussion or conversation about their beliefs  [this is to ensure that Muslim scholars will not be able to outwit or outmanoeuvre the Ahmadi in discussions on points of doctrine and prove him wrong or convince them to change their opinions about Islam or Ahmadiyya.]
  • has not translated or made accessible the books and teachings of its founder, and there is no educational program for the lay members to learn about them [this is to keep Ahmadi followers ignorant and to learn only what the caliph wishes them to know. Hence, this is one source of information that a (non-Ahmadi) scholar can use to analyse Ahmadiyya ideology without prejudice. Much of this is not even available to Ahmadis. Ahmadis kept in dark. Mind Control.]
  • does not permit any gatherings, groups or associations except with leadership approval [This is to ensure that all discussions are within the bounds of their restricted beliefs and no other. Mind control.]
  • strongly discourages critical questions during official meetings and discussions, and those who ask such questions are looked down upon [This is to ensure that all discussions are within the bounds of their restricted beliefs and no other. Mind control.]
  • declares the leader to be the only source of new ideas or expressions [This is to ensure that all discussions are within the bounds of their restricted beliefs and no other. Mind control.]
  • encourages members who have critical questions to seek forgiveness for their sins and pray [This is to ensure that all discussions are within the bounds of their restricted beliefs and no other. Mind control.]
  • encourages the classification of members who leave as insane or bribed but does not allow discussion of why they left. [This is to ensure that all discussions are within the bounds of their restricted beliefs and no other. Mind control.]

REFERENCES:

[1] Ahmadiyya Extremism: http://peacebruv.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/728/

[2] Channel4: Hate Campaign: http://www.qern.org/node/1185

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