Having had a long detailed discussion about Islam with a person referred too as Kaici, https://mbplee.wordpress.com/wp-admin/edit-comments.php , I would like to make my observations of what I believe is a faithful and loyal Muslim, in the eyes of Muslims.
The link above shows that Kaici is a fairly well educated Muslim about Islam and is able to make many references. His defence of Islamic doctrine and Islamic Benevolence, is admirable, as has been the defence of Islam by all the other contributors. I would not have expected any less of them. Their devotion to Islam and Islamic principles is truly admirable. Their faith in the righteousness and benevolence of Islam is as to be expected of a faithful followers Islam.
“Quran 6:79 Behold, unto Him who brought into being the heavens and the earth have I turned my face, having turned away from all that is false; and I am not of those who ascribe divinity to aught beside Him.”
The search for Truth – the desire to find the Divine – is in and of itself a great deed, even if the individual seeker never ascertains absolute Truth. The act itself possesses great intrinsic value and is demonstrative of a willing heart.
As God plainly reveals in his Holy Quran:
Quran: 29:69 And those who strive in Our paths to find us (God)),- We will certainly guide them to our Paths: For verily God is with those who do right.
From here, we should learn once and for all to never be judgmental against others but to leave judgment to God alone.
Saiidna Issa (Jesus) PBUH is recorded in the scriptures as saying, “Judge not lest ye be judged…and by the same measure you judge others by, so too will you be judged.”
Imagine how you would feel if you judged someone for their apparently bad deeds when, all the while, that person was suffering from a mental illness that influenced their negative actions? If this happened, it would be you who had sinned – who had truly committed a bad deed – for you passed judgment without knowing all the facts. It is for this very reason that God said to Prophet Mohamed in his Holy Quran :
Quran 46:9 Say: “I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the apostles, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. God is the ONLY one who can judge humans.
But then he (Kaici) makes this statement as Judge and Juror:
sorry for you ..i know my religion better than you and i realize that we can t discuss in serenity because you hate islam and you have not a level to discuss with me about islam .i was trying to be fair with you and give you explanations and teach you my religion but all i see is a sick person ..seems to me i am with a teenager ..!!
Yet, He has just played Allah’s role. Proving his “exclusivity, his superiority, his arrogance, and his inflexibility and bigotry.
What is “A NEW-FANGLED DOCTRINE?” “God is the ONLY one who can judge.”
So no one has the right to judge what I believe in any new fangled doctrines. In fact, no one on earth has ever proved the existence of Allah, or the God of Moses or Jesus Christ. All of the above are an act of faith, and a belief in legends based on ancient mythology. If you disagree, you have to prove me wrong.
Kaici, you also said,
“stop blaming islam please …blame humans who convince blinded people like you that they are killing in the name of islam ..we condemn these barbars they represent themselves ..we fought them in Algeria during 90 and they killed 200.000people so muslims were the first victims of the madness of human being …I am muslim do you think i am arrogant toward you? superior? i am just a human like tou ..respecting you because i am muslim and we believe in peace love and tolerance ….the real islam ..not what you see arounf you in some countries …”
Reply: All Qaeda, the Taliban, ISIL, have all acted and behaved in accordance with the teachings of the Quran, without exception. I could not fault them for violating any of the Quranic teachings. These people have followed the teachings of Islam to the letter T. They are the shaheeds of Islam and they are the Jihadists of Islam in accordance with the teachings of the Quran.
Kaici, You do not believe in Peace, Love and Tolerance because the Quran does not preach this for non-Muslims.
You should study Islam, the Quran, and History of Islam, the History of Muhammad and Islamic jurisprudence to really understand Islam. I believe you have been taught a perverted form of Islam. Your Islam is all Taqiyya, to justify your warped concept of Islam. Your Islam are extracts of the Quran and all out of context of the tone of the Quran. The Quran advocates, DEATH TO INFIDELS.
The Arabic word used to describe the ideal treatment of non-Muslims (shin-dal-dal) is the same word used in over 25 places in the Quran to describe how painful Allah has made Hell for them.
Islamic law actually forbids formal Muslim charity (in the form of the zakat payment) from being used to meet the needs of non-believers.
Allah intends for Muslims to triumph over unbelievers:
And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way to triumph over believers [Pickthall – “any way of success”] (4:141)
The only acceptable position of non-Muslims to Muslims is subjugation under Islamic rule:
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (9:29 Jizya is the money that non-Muslims must pay to their Muslim overlords in a pure Islamic state.)
A common criticism of many Muslims is that they often behave arrogantly toward others. Now you know why.”
Look around you, the world is in turmoil, killings, rape, genocide, millions of lives lost each day, and you claim that Islam preaches Peace and C|ompassion. It you are correct we should be living in peace, instead we are out to kill one another. What then is wrong with Islam because all the turmoil and unrest is coming out of Islam.
Stop and Think on this and find an answer from within you. I believe your intentions are that of a typical good Muslim but you have been misguided by Quotes from the Quran that have been taken out of context. The Quran is a Holy Book of Absolute Totalitarian Supremacy or all Non-Muslims.