§7 “Whoever kills a person (unjustly)….Quran 5:32

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§7: “Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

Quran & Hadith Contradictions & Misconceptions

Quran 5:32 has been so misquoted, adulterated, dissimulated, that it is necessary to openly discuss it and examine its real meaning to dispel further falsehoods told around it.


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Quran 5:32


This morning, 10.10.10 on BBC, “Sunday Morning Live” I heard an Sunni Imam, Ajmal Masoor, who is also a politician say:

“Whoever kills a person [innocent person]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

I immediately was very disturbed that this Imam could use the BBC to disseminate dissimulations to millions of viewers unchallenged. Why do I accuse Imam Masoor of dissimulation? Let us first examine the original text, with different translations and assess for ourselves.
(Note: That remark has been edited out of the iPlayer version:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vf0x0/Sunday_Morning_Live_Episode_13/  ) [1]
Different translations of Quran: 5:32

[5.32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land. (U of Michigan’s translation.)

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YUSUFALI: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
PICKTHAL: For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah’s Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth.
SHAKIR: For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our messengers came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.
Bijan Moeinian: Based upon this incidence, I decreed to the children of Israel (and such passages are missing in the existing bibles except a few verses in Thalmud) that: “Whoever kills a human being (unless the latter being guilty of murder or spreading corruption on earth) should be looked upon as though he has killed the entire humanity and whoever saves a life should be considered as the savior of whole mankind.” However, in spite of many Prophets which came to them with undeniable miracles, the majority of them chose to disregard the Divine laws.
Muhd Ahmed Scimira: That is why We decreed for the children of Israel that whosoever kills a human being, except (as punishment) for murder or for spreading corruption in the land, it shall be like killing all humanity; and whosoever saves a life, saves the entire human race. Our apostles brought clear proofs to them; but even after that most of them committed excesses in the land.
Sher Ali: That is why We decreed for the children of Israel that whosoever kills a human being, except (as punishment) for murder or for spreading corruption in the land, it shall be like killing all humanity; and whosoever saves a life, saves the entire human race. Our apostles brought clear proofs to them; but even after that most of them committed excesses in the land. Q: 5:32 alt
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Analysis of the various translations of Quran 5:32


It is quite apparent that “Whoever kills a person….it is as though he killed all mankind” is completely misleading and dishonest and is intended as a dissimulation. It is as though it is saying that Allah disapproves of killing (of any kind) i.e. “whoever kills… is killing mankind.” It is misleading because it is out of context and it was abbreviated deliberately to deceive those not familiar with the Quran. Because when the verse is read in full it implies that “when the person is a murderer, or someone who inciting sedition,” that killing him is justified. And in the eyes of Muslims, all non-Muslims who reject Allah and Islam are “spreading corruption”(are thus enemies of Islam and cannot be innocent) and are legitimate targets to be killed. But it does imply (to Muslims) that killing another (innocent) Muslim would be synonymous to killing all mankind. (That, I believe was Muhammad’s intended meaning of that verse.)

Umar ibn Kathir (1301-1373) – Tafsir


Let me quote from Umar ibn Kathir (1301-1373) a foremost Tafsir(interpreter) writer, (another source to illustrate that this concept is not unique or bigoted or modern.) [3] :

So, strictly speaking, verse 5:32 is only applicable to the children of Israel (the verse says it). Any way, to be fair, we shall ignore this limitation and concentrate on the wider meaning:

On the surface of it, the first sentence (Islamists often quote only the first sentence, conveniently hiding the next sentence) of verse 5:32 seems very munificence and non-violent. What does the next sentence say? It says clearly that even when Allah sent His messengers many people disbelieved them. Muhammad was one of such messengers, the best and the last. Therefore, “those who disbelieve in Muhammad and Allah (i.e. the non-Muslims) are the transgressors. Evidently, the non-Muslims are the mischief-makers on earth. Logically, these non-Muslims do not fall under the purview of the merciful provisions of verse 5:32. In simple language, this means: verse 5:32 is applicable only to the Muslims. To confirm this, let me quote ibn Kathir  the foremost Tafsir writer:

Beginning  of Kathir’s quote

(if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) ***Saving life in this case occurs by not killing a soul that Allah has forbidden (A Muslim.) So this is the meaning of saving the life of all mankind, for whoever forbids killing a soul without justification, the lives of all people will be saved from him.” Similar was said by Mujahid;

[وَمَنْ أَحْيَـهَا]

(And if anyone saved a life…) means, he refrains from killing a soul. Al-`Awfi reported that Ibn `Abbas said that Allah’s statement,

[فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً]

(it would be as if he killed all mankind. .) means, ***“Whoever kills one soul **’that Allah has forbidden killing,’ is just like he who kills all mankind.” Sa’id bin Jubayr said, “He who allows himself to shed the blood of a Muslim, is like he who allows shedding the blood of all people. He who forbids shedding the blood of one Muslim, is like he who forbids shedding the blood of all people.” In addition, Ibn Jurayj said that Al-A`raj said that Mujahid commented on the Ayah,

[فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً]

(it would be as if he killed all mankind,) ***“He who kills a believing soul (*believer in Islam) intentionally, Allah makes the Fire of Hell his abode, He will become angry with him, and curse him, and has prepared a tremendous punishment for him, equal to if he had killed all people, his punishment will still be the same.” Ibn Jurayj said that Mujahid said that the Ayah,

[وَمَنْ أَحْيَـهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً]

(and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) means, “He who does not kill anyone, then the lives of people are safe from him.”

End of Kathir’s quote.

There you are! This tafsir by Kathir says ***when a Muslim is killed it is as if the entire humanity is killed. When an infidel is killed it has no relevance. Similarly, when a Believer’s (i.e. Muslim’s) life is saved it is as if the entire humanity is saved. You see, in the Qur’an and in Islam what matters most is the lives of Muslims and not the lives of infidels. [4]

Why do the erudite Islamists of the Fiqh Council of North America want to hide this truth?

This answer can also be found in the Qur’an.

Please note: ***there are at least 18 verses in the Qur’an which ask for the pre-emptive murder of the kafirs (infidels). But, it is not that simple to annihilate all the unbelievers just like that. It needs time, patience, plan, strategies, weapons and pretexts to wage a campaign of total slaughter of the non-Muslims. We observe this clever procedure is followed by the true Islamists and the suicide bombers. Even the former Prime Minister of Malaysia , Dr Mahathir Mohammad had asked the Muslims to acquire modern weapons to wage a war against the Jews. He purposely, did not mention the entire non-Muslim population, simply because his country is precariously dependent upon the investment of these infidels.

When the situation does not permit the Islamists to openly declare the murder of infidels, Allah asks them not to be friendly with them. Here are a few verses that tell the Muslims not to befriend the non-Muslims:

Do not take unbelievers as friends; caution is necessary to befriend the unbelievers…3:28

3:28 Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliyâ (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allâh in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allâh warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allâh is the final return.

In pure Islamic Paradises one will surely note this verse being fully practised. You will observe very little co-operation between the Muslims and the non-Muslims. The interaction between the aggressive Muslims and the feeble non-Muslim minority is almost non-existent. In some Islamic societies (like Malaysia , Brunei ) Muslims are not even allowed to patronize non-Muslim restaurants and eateries. In an Islamic State like Brunei , there are signboards in Malay language inside all non-Muslim restaurants stating, “Bukan Makanan orang Islam (food here is not for the Muslims)”. Similar warnings are also implied in Malaysia or in other Islamic countries.

This is the limit of tolerance and friendship (with infidels) in Islam!

Now, when the Islamists migrate to infidel lands, they simply hide those truths. They become sheer hypocrites. Outwardly, they pretend to show a friendly face, but inwardly, they remain as hateful, vicious and cantankerous towards the non-Muslim as before. Why should they have this double-face?—one might wonder. Once again, the answer is also contained in the above verse (3:28). This verse tells the Muslims to exercise caution when befriending the infidels. In fact, what it really means is:  when weak, the Muslims are allowed to be hypocrites in dealing with the non-Muslims. They are permitted to tell lies and hide the truth about their religion.

Once again, I will prove my assertion by quoting from ibn Kathir

Start of Kathir’s quote:

The Prohibition of Supporting the Disbelievers

…………………………………………………………

Allah said next,

[إِلاَ أَن تَتَّقُواْ مِنْهُمْ تُقَـةً]

(unless you indeed fear a danger from them) meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said, “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curst them.” Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, The Tuqyah (Taqiyya) is allowed until the Day of Ressurection.” Allah said,

[وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ]

End of Kathir’s quote.

Islam even forbids Muslims to be in friendly terms with their non-Muslim parents or kindred. In Islamic parlance, even verbal criticism of Islam means oppression. If a non-Muslim father or a non-Muslim brother of a convert (to Islam) utters any words and/or makes any grimaces that is offensive to the nascent Muslim convert, it is deemed to be oppressive/blasphemy. Therefore, as per Islamic rule a retaliation becomes due. Muslims are now allowed to murder them even though they might be their father, brother or sister.

Do you not believe this? Read the following Qur’anic verse.

The believers should not take even their fathers, brothers, or sons as friends if they resist God and Muhammad; these types of believers are the party of God, that is, the believers cannot be friendly with the unbelievers even though they are their blood… 58:22

58:22 You (O Muhammad) will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), even though they were their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred (people). For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with Ruh (proofs, light and true guidance) from Himself. And We will admit them to Gardens (Paradise) under which rivers flow, to dwell therein (forever). Allah is pleased with them, and they with Him. they are the Party of Allah. Verily, it is the Party of Allah that will be successful. (ibn Kathir)

***Non-Muslims are Never Innocent – They deny Allah and his Prophet

Views of a Respected Imam

UK Imam: “Non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet”

APRIL 1, 2008 4:54 PM BY 

The Anjem Chaudary video has, of course, been circulating for quite some time — it was already old when we posted it in December 2006 — but it bears repeating whenever you hear a Muslim spokesman in the West claiming that Islam forbids the killing of innocent civilians. Why is it so hard to get a definition of “innocent” in this context?

“Report: Non-Muslims Deserve to Be Punished,” from FoxNews (thanks to PNM):

A report posted on Islam Watch, a site run by Muslims who oppose intolerant teachings and hatred for unbelievers, exposes a prominent Islamic cleric and lawyer who support extreme punishment for non-Muslims “” including killing and rape.

A question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin in an East London mosque asks why Allah would tell Muslims to kill and rape innocent non-Muslims, including their wives and daughters, according to Islam Watch.

“Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet,” the Imam says, according to the report. “If you don’t believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain.”

The lawyer, Anjem Choudary, backs up the Imam’s position, saying that all Muslims are innocent.

Click here to watch the interview with Islamic lawyer Anjem Choudary.

“You are innocent if you are a Muslim,” Choudary tells the BBC. “Then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are not a Muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God.”

Choudary said he would not condemn a Muslim for any action.

“As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters,” Choudary said. “I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim.” [5]

Concluding Comments Ending Dissimulation:


Quran 5:32 Has either been used ignorantly or surreptitiously in such a way as to portray, innocently or maliciously, the munificence of Islam by the simply contraction of the verse to the following and saying the Quran says,

Whoever kills a person……it is as though he has killed mankind.”
This implies that the Quran believes killing another person is abhorrent and it is not Islamic. But as the above has shown, the contraction has altered the meaning of the verse 5:32 altogether and is a dissimulation. However for a non-Muslim to arrive at such a conclusion would appear bigoted, thus it was necessary to quote, at lengths, Tafsirs from respected Muslims like Umar ibn Kathir to provide the irrefutable evidence needed to show authentication.

This article should put to rest any further ambiguity regarding Qur’an 5:32

Addendum

It appears that this article has troubled many Muslims who have read it. Thus I felt that the article has not sufficiently covered the salient points I have attempted to convey, thus I will extend my analysis. Many Muslims still adhere to:

“Whoever kills a person [innocent person]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

Indeed, on the surface it sounds a very noble cosmopolitan philosophy but it is totally out of context with the totality of the Islamic Quranic ideology and thus a total dissimulation as it stands. To prove that it is totally out of context I will quote a few Islamic verses to show why I believe this is so.

Muslim (1:33) – the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people (infidels) till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people (infidels) till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally.”

Muslim (1:30) – “The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people(infidel) so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.”

Bukhari (52:73) – “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords’.”

Then in case Women and children are considered “innocent” I quote:

Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).”

In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings. [The Prophet makes it very clear that a non-Muslim (infidel) is a legitimate target for death. It also implies that only Muslims can be innocent, never infidels. This is a point missed by most apologists of Islam.]

Quran (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.”

Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

***Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”. This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘joining companions to Allah’).

Quran (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today’s suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

Quran (4:89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”

Quran (4:95) – 

“Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-“ This passage criticizes “peaceful” Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah’s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that “Jihad” doesn’t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man’s protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

Quran (4:104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…” Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”

***Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey’s end.”

Quran (8:39) – “And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah”

Some translations interpret “fitna” as “persecution”, but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there – just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad’s intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until “religion is only for Allah”, meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that “Allah must have no rivals.”

Quran (8:57) – “If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.”

Quran (8:67) – “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”

Conclusions

There is no doubt that Islam is a Totalitarian Supremacist Theocracy that has no mercy for infidels. There are also no innocent infidels, they are all guilty of mischief against Allah and are not a part of mankind.

ESSENTIAL EPILOGUE  (added on 22 November, 2015)

This article on Quran 5:32 has attracted much attention from Muslims some of whom are quite distressed and disturbed with its contents. This is probably because I have not presented it thoroughly enough, so I will make an attempt to be more plain in my analysis. I will restrict myself to referring to Islamic religious texts in my analysis.

Why Quran 5:32 is Out of Context with the Quran and Ahadith

(1) “Whoever kills a person [innocent person]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

We have already discussed that a Jew, Christian or Idol worshipper is NEVER an innocent person. No where in the Quran has a Jew,Christian or Idol worshipper ever been referred to as an innocent person. Only Muslims can be innocent.

(2) [5.32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; (Another version)

What is considered spreading “mischief in the land?”

Fasad (Arabicفساد /fasād/) is an Islamic concept which means spreading mischief in a Muslim land,moral corruption against God, and any form of expression or activity by non-Muslims or apostates of Islam that creates disorder in the Muslim community.

So “spreading mischief ” is a code term to clearly refer to non-Muslims and never to devout Muslims. So it becomes clear that it does not apply to, “those who spread mischief in Muslim land or non-Muslims. This cannot be clearer.

So it should be abundantly clear that most Muslims have been misled or misunderstood Quran 5:32

I just hope that Muslims will read this article slowly and digest every word carefully to understand the analysis made. This analysis has not been made to discredit Quran 5:32, only to interpret it as Muhammad would have intended it to be. In fact Quran 5:32 is defending the integrity of the Muslims as Muhammad had intended i.e., That a Muslim must never kill another Muslim but with only the above exceptions.

What, I believe, is so distressing to most Muslims when they read this article is that, “they cannot accept that what they believed as one of the NOBLE tenets of Islam has been so badly misunderstood by them for all these years with this new analysis of Quran 5:32”

Thus Quran 5:32 should read as follows:

“Whoever[a Muslim] kills a person [another innocent Muslim] [innocent person]… unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land [blaspheming against Allah – apostacy],it is as though he has killed all [of Islamic] mankind. And whoever saves a [Mulsim] life, it is as though he had saved all [Islamic] mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

*****Any other meaning of the above is a corruption of that phrase, or out of context  of the whole ethos of the Quran and Ahadith, and unworthy of consideration because it dissimulates its true meaning.

 

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    • mbplee

      Rafeeque thank you for your links. Link 1 states:
      “According to Islam it is a great sin to kill an innocent person, and anyone who does so will suffer great torment in the hereafter:

      …So We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another person – unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth – it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur’an 5: 32)

      As we can see from the above verse, killing one innocent person is regarded as equivalent to killing all of mankind. In another verse, the importance that the faithful attach to life is expressed in these terms:

      “Those who do not call on any other god together with Allah and do not kill anyone God has made inviolate, except with the right to do so, and do not fornicate; anyone who does that will receive an evil punishment” (Qur’an 25: 68)”

      But the Quran also states: Qur’an:8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
      So it is clear that, “an infidel can never be an innocent person.” Therefore, killing infidels is totally justified in Islam. In fact all Jihad killings can be justified as retaliation for rejecting Allah.

      In Link 2: “”If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum,grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.”
      [Al-Qur’an 9:6]”

      Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” “People of the Book” refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. This was one of the final “revelations” from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad’s companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

      So if the infidel is not willing to repent and accept Allah as his god, he should be killed. There is no other alternative, is there?

      That is my perspective.

      • Jalal Kassab

        the quran talks about not to go to extreme with your religion, this is what this post is wanting to conclude. The Imam gave the verse and the sanctity of life, yet some arguments that killing innocent people is acceptable. It is not.
        Qur’an:8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
        NO. This does justify, “an infidel can never be an innocent person.”
        God i stalking and saying “I”. He is not saying Mohammed because He is named here is an “Apostle”. Furthermore this Chapter 8 in the Quran is in a war context, it is not about killing your neighbour or warring with your neighbour about having different beliefs. This is about when you are being attacked.
        The context you preface and your interpretations is not found in mainstream of Islam and you and the extremist share a perverted view of Islam only due to your misunderstanding and lazy interpenetration.

      • mbplee

        Jalal Kassab, Thank you for your comments. I would not expect any other reply from a Muslim. But we have each to interprete the Quran as it appears to us and not according to how you want us to interprete it. Muslims should be realistic when they read their Quran and not attempt to window dress Islam. Just look around the world at the Islamic world when you interprete the Quran and ask yourself, why? Why are ISIL beheading other Arabs? or their captive Christians? Why? Are they misguided Muslims or are you?

      • Jalal Kassab

        Once again you post “infidel is not willing to repent and accept Allah as his god, he should be killed. There is no other alternative, is there?”
        Yes there is, you just have not collated all the evidence. Yet the substantially more verses about harmony and tolerance. They cant contradict each other and they don’t. It is your interpenetration of them and poor scholarly application.
        You have obviously not familiar with the numerous treaties that were made with both Christians and Jews and while many flourished with religions freedoms and where significant communities lived.
        Do they not forget it was the Muslim upon capturing Jerusalem the Patriarch Sophronius, a representative of the Byzantine government in 637 AD handed the keys to the city to the Muslims Caliph. After 600 years in exile the Muslims permitted the return of the Jews back in to the holy city with full religious freedoms.
        Furthermore, when the Jews were persecuted and expelled with the Muslims during the Spanish Inquisition of the late 14 Century in Europe they’re settled in the Muslim lands with full religious freedoms, another convenient fact forgotten, even to some less informed.
        DO they not remember the treaties made with the Christian and Jews even after the death of the prophet such as the treaty of Umar detailing the rights and privileges regarding the conquered people and the Muslims in Jerusalem. This treaty was signed by Umar and Patriarch Sophronius, along with some of the generals of the Muslim armies.

        When the Jews were being persecuted in Christian Europe as part of the purge of the Spainish Inquisition many came e to settle in the Muslim Lands.

        Over the past 100 years, this harmony has changed and has become less tolerant, it is called colonisation.

      • mbplee

        Jalal Kassab, Thank you for your comments. I believe that there is still a lot about Islam that you are not familiar about. Do you know the difference of Islam pre- and post- Medina and why? Do you know about the betrayal in Medina and the genocide that occurred there at the time of Muhammad?
        Do you understand the weapons of Taqiyya and Kitman, or do you even know what and why Muhammad abrogated Quranic verses, and do you know the Verse of the Sword, Quran 9:5, actually abrogated 124 verses referring to Peace in the Quran? Or that Jihad, Quran 2:215 is a mandate for all Muslims to obey? Or that the Quran has 109 verses that calls all Muslims to War?
        When you have collated all that, then I welcome your comments on my articles.

      • Mahmood

        Dear author,

        As a Muslim brother, I sincerely advise you ask for forgiveness from Allah, the Almighty, for your highly strange and unprofessional analysis. Brother, please do not be offended. If you wish to write articles on Islam, you should enrol yourself in Islamic university. You will truly be repentful for the psychotic words you preach. May Allah almighty forgive you after you repent and not burn you in hell fire.

        Why do you want to cause trouble, my brother? If the Quran says, ‘If a person kills someone, it is as though he has killed all of mankind’, why do you want to add more words to that and state Christians and Jews etc are an exception? Brother, you know that is a grave sin to change the Quran’s words – this is in one of the very first few pages of the Quran in fact. If you cannot fund an Islamic degree, you can also practice SATs, which is an American system of examining words. Do not worry that it is American, it is used internationally also and it will InshAllah comfort you in its interpretation techniques moving forward. Please, my friend, I am very afraid for you. Oh Allah, please guide our brother to the right path and do not lead him astray, as you say in Surah Fatiha. Oh Allah, please one day if brother marries a Mo’mineen, that is a Christian or Jew, as you state Muslims can do in Surah Bakarah, let brother not kill his wife in the night. Oh Allah, teach brother to compress his fiery temper and remind him as you say in 6:107 that you have not made our brother the non-muslim keeper, nor guardian over them too. Oh Allah, by all means, encourage brother to praise our Iman but let him read the verses the he may have missed somehow when perhaps distracted by worldly possessions, that there is no compulsion on religion (2:256) and that if the people of other religions choose to dispute us, You are very instructive about what to do next and that is to say, `God best knows (the value of) what you do (22.67)’. Praise to thee, God. Oh Allah, please help brother reach and inhale the perfume of paradise by encouraging him to also read and practice the hadith of our beloved Prophet, peace be upon him. For,
        “whoever kills a person who has a truce with the Muslims will never smell the fragrance of Paradise (Saheeh Muslim).” Finally my brother, a stark warning from Abu Dawud’s recording of a hadith from the messenger of Allah (PBUH):

         “Beware! Whoever is cruel and hard on a non-Muslim minority, or curtails their rights, or burdens them with more than they can bear, or takes anything from them against their free will; I (Prophet Muhammad) will complain against the person on the Day of Judgment.”

        My brother, we fear for you but will not lose hope. Pray in 2/3rds of the night when Allah is listening the most. You should endeavour fasting, my friend, out of Ramadan, and inshAllah, praise Allah, our almighty Allah will forgive you before your life ends. I suggest 4 months fasting this year but maybe you can do it 1 month per season. Oh Allah, let him repent, oh Allah, show your mercy, oh Allah, may he be saved from the burning hellfire once he asks for your forgiveness, oh Allah, let him be saved from eternal burning in the Pits, inshAllah.

      • mbplee

        Mahmoud, as you will see, I have approved your post so it can be read by all. I am sorry your views on Quran 5:32 are so narrow and out of context with the rest of the Quran. I hope some day you may see that your views are wrong. You are not the only Muslim with such views, but that is what I expected because your thoughts are all so regimented. Read again what I have written with an open mind and open heart and perhaps you will see things differently. My good wishes to you.

  1. Novak Djokovic

    Lesley Hazleton discussed some stereotypes about understanding the Quran:

    and here:

    • mbplee

      NovakDjokovic, Thank you. I finally managed (26.10.14) to update my Flash and saw all the videos you have presented. Unfortunately, I conclude that Lesley Hazelton is really an apologist for Muhammad and I disagree with her fundamental views on Islam. I believe she is misguided and rather biased.

  2. Reece

    You have understood it totally wrong because all you know is that one verse and have no wider knowledge. When God says ”we decreed to the children of Israel” he is talking about what he told the Jews to do previously.. because in the Talmud it says:

    ”FOR THIS REASON WAS MAN CREATED ALONE, TO TEACH THEE THAT WHOSOEVER DESTROYS A SINGLE SOUL OF ISRAEL, SCRIPTURE IMPUTES [GUILT] TO HIM AS THOUGH HE HAD DESTROYED A COMPLETE WORLD; AND WHOSOEVER PRESERVES A SINGLE SOUL OF ISRAEL, SCRIPTURE ASCRIBES [MERIT] TO HIM AS THOUGH HE HAD PRESERVED A COMPLETE WORLD”

    So your arguments are invalid.. God was talking about the whole of mankind, but he told the Jews first and he also says in the Quran he has not come to destroy the laws of which was before?

    But!!!
    The Jews turned away from God when they didn’t believe Jesus (peace be upon him) was the messiah.

    And the bible has been corrupted by man, which is proven by the highest Christian scholars, it was changed by Constantine
    and was infiltrated by Paul who was a agent sent by the Romans to destroy the true message of Jesus (peace be upon him)

    Paul was known as Saul before he changed his name. Saul persecuted Christians arresting and murdering them as he went from place to place.

    I pray for you brother.

    • mbplee

      reece Murda, thank you for your comments. You should really study what I have posted much closer than you have because you have entirely missed the point. The Quran is full of “dualism” and it is important that you are not misled by only reading one part of the Quran without the “dual” part. Typically like most Muslims you only see the part that suits your arguments.
      Let me quote from Umar ibn Kathir (1301-1373) a foremost Tafsir(interpreter) writer:
      Beginning of Kathir’s quote

      (if anyone killed a person (Muslim) not “in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land” – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) Saving life in this case occurs by not killing a soul that Allah has forbidden (Killing a Believer is Forbidden by Allah but not an infidel.) So this is the meaning of saving the life of all mankind, for whoever forbids killing a soul(a Muslim) without justification, the lives of all people will be saved from him.”
      End of Kathir’s quote.

      There you are! This tafsir by Kathir says when a Muslim is killed it is as if the entire humanity is killed. When an infidel is killed it has no relevance. Similarly, when a Believer’s (i.e. Muslim’s) life is saved it is as if the entire humanity is saved. You see, in the Qur’an and in Islam what matters most is the lives of Muslims and not the lives of infidels.
      Please note: there are at least 18 verses in the Qur’an which ask for the pre-emptive murder of the kafirs (infidels).[Killing of infidels is APPROVED BY ALLAH. Killing of Muslims (Believers, except for murderers and trouble makers) IS FORBIDDEN BY ALLAH.
      That is the dualism you do not seem to understand. You have to learn to be more discerning. Look it up yourself to confirm what I have quoted.

      • Ali

        May Allah give you hidaya and change your evil thinking.

      • mbplee

        Hafsa Siddiqui: May Allah open your eyes to the truth one day.

  3. Reece

    Surat An-Nisā 4:123 – 125 Paradise is not [obtained] by your wishful thinking nor by that of the People of the Scripture. Whoever does a wrong will be recompensed for it, and he will not find besides Allah a protector or a helper
    If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female – and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them.
    Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For Allah did take Abraham for a friend.

    I do not read what any other man says about a book I just read the book. it says the book is full and complete. it is also said that anything said after is lies. I don’t believe in hadiths. or any scholars understanding of verses because that is proven to cause corruption.

    Surat An-Nisā 4:49 – 50
    Hast thou not turned Thy vision to those who claim sanctity for themselves? Nay-but Allah Doth sanctify whom He pleaseth. But never will they fail to receive justice in the least little thing.
    Behold! how they invent a lie against Allah! but that by itself is a manifest sin!

    I have quoted from a book as to what it means its not what my own mind has come up with? Are you trying to say god told the Jews something then switched sides? God made the whole of mankind!!!. it says it was ”decreed upon the children of Israel” meaning told before to the jews.. And it says ”a soul” not a ”Muslim soul”
    -Surat Al-Baqarah 2:6
    Indeed, those who disbelieve – it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them – they will not believe

    Whoever that scholar or whoever he is,(I will not waste my time looking him up) he obviously is not learned and he should not be putting across his views on scriptures because he obviously knows nothing.

    Surat At-Tawbah 9:6 – 7
    If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to a place of security. That is because they are men without knowledge.
    How can there be for the polytheists a treaty in the sight of Allah and with His Messenger, except for those with whom you made a treaty at al-Masjid al-Haram? So as long as they are upright toward you, be upright toward them. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].

    Surat An-Nisā 4:29 – 31
    O you who have believed, do not consume one another’s wealth unjustly but only [in lawful] business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves [or one another]. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful.
    And whoever does that in aggression and injustice – then We will drive him into a Fire. And easy it is for Allah
    If you avoid the major sins which you are forbidden, We will remove from you your lesser sins and admit you to a noble entrance [into Paradise].

    I can quote a verse that can easily misquoted:

    Surat An-Nisā 4:74 – 76
    ”Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory – Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value)”

    (But it continues)

    And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and for those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: “Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!”
    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan.

    And another easily misquoted verse

    Surat An-Nisā 4:89 – 90
    ”They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-”
    -Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then Allah Hath opened no way for you (to war against them)

    Surat An-Nisā4:135
    O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

    Surat An-Nisā4:173
    But to those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, He will give their (due) rewards,- and more, out of His bounty: But those who are disdainful and arrogant, He will punish with a grievous penalty; Nor will they find, besides Allah, any to protect or help them.

    its is said that Muhammed (pbuh) was told by the angel Gabriel that he could go kill the infidels for there crimes against him and the Muslims and Muhammed refused and said he would not kill any of them because then none of there family would ever convert to the right path
    (paraphrasing)

    And jihad means ”struggle”
    Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) said ”The greatest Jihad is to battle your own soul, to fight the evil within yourself”

    Surat An-Nisā 4:60 -61
    Hast thou not turned Thy vision to those who declare that they believe in the revelations that have come to thee and to those before thee? Their (real) wish is to resort together for judgement (in their disputes) to the Evil One, though they were ordered to reject him. But Satan’s wish is to lead them astray far away.
    When it is said to them: “Come to what Allah hath revealed, and to the Messenger”: Thou seest the Hypocrites avert their faces from thee in disgust.

    Surat An-Nisā 4:171
    O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist – it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

    • mbplee

      reecemurda, thank you for your comments. This is not the place for extended discussions so my reply will be very brief. If you wish to discuss your doubts about Islam, try, posting at http://my.telegraph.co.uk/blogs/
      Referring to your quotes, they are all out of context with the whole of the Quran (and Ahadith), and you only quote that which suits your arguments. You have completely neglected taking into consideration of the extensive “abrogations” introduced by Muhammad nullifying the Meccan verses of the Quran but using those obsolete verses to support your arguments. Thus you have either not understood Islamic dualism, or overlooked it unscrupulously for the sake of Taqiyya, attempting to deceive or mislead your opponent. Hence most of your verses carry no currency because it is out of context. Let me illustrate: Your said:
      “And jihad means ”struggle”
      Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) said ”The greatest Jihad is to battle your own soul, to fight the evil within yourself””
      But the truth is:
      “Jihad Means ‘Inner Struggle’
      The Myth:

      Islam’s Western apologists sometimes claim that since the Arabic word, Jihad, literally means “fight” or “struggle,” it refers to an “inner struggle” rather than holy war.

      The Truth:

      In Arabic, “jihad” means struggle. In Islam, it means holy war.

      The Quran specifically exempts the disabled and elderly from Jihad (4:95), which would make no sense if the word is being used merely within the context of spiritual struggle. It is also unclear why Muhammad and his Quran would use graphic language, such as smiting fingers and heads from the hands and necks of unbelievers if he were speaking merely of character development.

      With this in mind, Muslim apologists generally admit that there are two meanings to the word, but insist that “inner struggle” is the “greater Jihad,” whereas “holy war” is the “lesser.” In fact, this misconception is based only on an a single hadith that Islamic scholars generally agreed was fabricated.

      By contrast, the most reliable of all Hadith collections is that of Bukhari. Jihad is mentioned over 200 times in reference to the words of Muhammad and each one carries a clear connotation to holy war, with only a handful of possible exceptions (dealing with a woman’s supporting role during a time of holy war).”

      Hence I recommend you study Islam in greater depth.
      AbdullahMuhammad

  4. Reece

    None of the verses were used out of context if you read Surat An-Nisā you’ll will see they are all totally in context.

    And there is 3 meanings of jihad actually.. the word is the same, its just different contexts you use them in.

    It is you who cannot understand that 1400 years ago things were much different than today, people used to ride around with swords as long as your leg, baby girls were buried alive in the sand as soon as they were born.. human sacrifice was out of control.. murdering was out of control And if them so called humans are willing to bury baby girls and sacrifice humans.. Do you think they could be changed by words? if they could and repent then that’s with God but if they cant and still want to make war and kill there is no wrong with killing someone who has killed or will kill..

    Like if someone today pulled a gun out on your family and was about to kill them.. would it be unjust for a policeman to laser dot and snipe them? No because there was no other way out of the situation a innocent life is worth more.

    All of the war verses are used in the context of war.. if the U.S came up with them verses no one would have a problem with them because they are logical? if your at war and someone tries to kill you and you kill them because there was no other choice or way out of the situation then its not your fault.
    But if you kill someone who wants peace, even if they are ”not innocent” then its a great sin.
    even a pagan who sacrifices humans it says if they want peace ” then Allah Hath opened no way for you (to war against them)”

    I am not saying all Muslims are innocent like with most things 99 percent do not follow properly.

    And Christians And Jews were before the quran was revealed, so obviously who do you think had greater armies.

    The quran is about abstaining from your desires and making your soul clean from sin.

    And I do not believe Bukhari at all in my opinion he done what Paul done to Christianity

    Surat Al-Baqarah 2:124
    And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, “Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people.” [Abraham] said, “And of my descendants?” [ Allah ] said, “My covenant does not include the wrongdoers.

  5. Bel

    Completely wrong. The word “all man kind” is very clear. Any one who read the Koran should notice usually talk about Muslims or faithfuls or the opposite but in that one it says all man kind that means Muslims Jews Christians Buddhists whatever they are. so stop this game. we respect all religions.

    • mbplee

      agadir, thank you for your comment. This is not the place for an extended debate. You are ignorant of Islam because you are completely out of context of the Koran. It will be only necessssary for me to quote one paragraph that disproves your claims:

      Quran (4:56) – Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise

      That is what Allah has pronounced. I doubt you can dispute it. A Disbeliever (in Islam) can never be an innocent person (or person unjustly killed). Allah Commands that unbelievers must convert or be killed. So it is a just killing if he is a non-believer.

    • mbplee

      Bel, I am not sure if I answered this post of your adequately. I am not sure if you are attempting to be clever, or you are showing me your ignorance (of language). I will post a translation of “Quran 5:32
      [5.32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.”

      Note: “unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land.” This refers to (1) murderers or (2) those who do not accept Allah – infidels. This translation state, “all men” not “all mankind.” It is clear that murderers and infidels are not considered worthy to be included in “all men.”

      Don’t be so gullible, read and try to understand its true meaning.

  6. Bel

    Just to clarify Islam equal terrorism as you said or incite to kill Jews if that is right you wont find any one of them alive today. Muslims never killed them as Hitler did instead they protected them in Andalusia and all Arabic countries till they FORCED to leave by MOSAD, if you dont know 8% of Israelis there origin is Morocco. We are all human we are all against terror and tolerance should be our religion.

  7. maliurj

    The author of this article is an idiot. Yes I said it and I am a Muslim. First of all, Prophet Muhammad salalahu alahi wa salam lived with his grandfather Abu Taalib who died a kafr. He loved his uncle dearly and would not have hurt him in any form or fashion. He even prayed to Allah subhana wa Taala for forgiveness on behalf of his uncle. Secondly, many reverts to Islam have relatives that are not Muslim but are making duaa to Allah subhana wa Taala to guide them to the deen of Islam. These non-Muslims respect Islam and some are even taking steps towards learning about Islam. If we were to randomly kill non-Muslims to whom Prophet Muhammad salalahu alahi wa salam was also sent, then we would be going against the mandates of Allah subhana wa Taala. What about our mothers whom we are strictly instructed to honor but who have not yet accepted Islam due to earlier indoctrination of christian beliefs etc…should we stab them to death because they have not accepted Al Islam according to our schedule? Come on dude, your common sense is severely lacking. Remember Prophet Lut AS who lived amongst the people who committed the vilest act upon men? He did not wage war against them! There are myriad of people who never received the proper teachings of Al Islam and therefore Allah subhana wa Taala will not allow them to become victims by the hands of Muslims before they receive proper knowledge. Didn’t Allah subhana wa Taala grant Firaun an oportunity to repent from shirk? He is Al Khaliq! Every human being born to mankind is a Muslim until they are led astray. Hence, Prophet Muhammad salalahu alahi wa salam was sent to call them back to the fitrah of Al Islam. There are over 7 billion people on earth, with approximately 1.5 of that population being Muslim. You do the math! Are you saying that we are supposed to wage war on over 6 billion people randomly without fulfilling our responsibility to educate them about the deen of Al Islam? Do you really believe that we are not going to be held responsible for failing to fulfill this responsibility? Wake up dude!

    • mbplee

      maliurj, Thank you for your post. Note that I HAVE APPROVED it. This article was posted taking into consideration its “total context” of the whole Quran. Muhammad was a simple illiterate Arab and so the Quran was written in a simple literal language so all could understand its meanings. I try to understand it as Allah would have wanted me to understand it. “I do not attempt to “justify” Allah’s words or message.” That would be blasphemy!
      So when Allah says:
      Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
      Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-”

      I believe that Allah meant it and makes no exceptions for uncles or mothers or any other special loved ones who are not of the faith. If he did, he would have said so in the Quran. I cannot find such exceptions.
      I am fully awake and aware of things Islamic. Are you, muliurj? Looks like you may have got the wrong end of the stick at times.

  8. Houman

    With all due respect to authors. As a simple practicing muslim that has read the quran from start to end. It is very easy to understand meanings of words when you see the pattern it was conveyed. It starts with a reminder towards a certain thought or act. Then a history lesson relating to previous part and finally a prayer to help one accomplish that first part.

    In this regard all the parts that mention another group if people are lessons and examples of the first part. It is simple so that an uneducated man that hears it will understand it on his own and not need a highly educated interpretor to explain the words.

    It simply states do not kill an innocent of murder or other harms to man and try to save lives. Infidel or not they are not to be killed under that simple rule.

    As to the “duality” of verses they are simply red lines that Islam allows to change things tonsave ones life. Do not eat pork. But if you are starving its ok and so On. At the end the message is clear. Be grateful and give back.

    In no way it is my intention to insult any one. It has been said, it is the sign of intelligence to be able to contemplate an idea without accepting it”. I am a science scholar and a believer.

    • mbplee

      Houman, Thank you for your comments. In your attempt to be polite, you have not made yourself clear but I am assuming that you are rebutting my comments by your remarks:
      “It simply states do not kill an innocent of murder or other harms to man and try to save lives. Infidel or not they are not to be killed under that simple rule.”

      To me this indicates that you are selecting words out of context of the Quran to glorify “your biased concept” of Islam(taqiyya). That you do not appreciate the totality of the message of Allah in the whole Quran. Let me quote a few verses from the Quran to show you why you are deceitfully out of context and have isolated your verse with the Quran.

      Muslim (1:33) – the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people (infidels) till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

      Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people (infidels) till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally.”

      Muslim (1:30) – “The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people(infidel) so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”

      Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.”

      Bukhari (52:73) – “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords’.”

      Then in case Women and children are considered “innocent” I quote:

      Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

      Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).” In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings. [The Prophet makes it very clear that a non-Muslim (infidel) is a legitimate target for death. It also implies that only Muslims can be innocent, never infidels. This is a point missed by most apologists of Islam.]

      I hope you will attempt to study Islam in its full context and not take out extracts that could be misleading.

  9. ZAKIR NHUSSAIN

    FOLLOWING ARE CORRECT QUOTES FROM QURAN WHICH PROMOTES HUMANITY..

    This is a question that often comes up in critiques of Islam, especially in light of recent political events. It is incumbent on Muslims to respond to and clear misconceptions stemming from Islam’s perceived stance on violence and interfaith relations.

    The Importance of Context

    The word ‘context’ has two dictionary meanings:

    • The parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect.

    • The set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.

    Any discussion on Qur’anic verses that refer to violence would be meaningless, without a study of the surrounding context. Before we study the verses in question, therefore, let us examine this issue in a wider perspective:

    The Sanctity of Life

    The Glorious Qur’an says:

    “…take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.”

    [Al-Qur’an 6:151]

    Islam considers all life forms as sacred. However, the sanctity of human life is accorded a special place. The first and the foremost basic right of a human being is the right to live. The Glorious Qur’an says:

    “…if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”

    [Al-Qur’an 5:32]

    Such is the value of a single human life, that the Qur’an equates the taking of even one human life unjustly, with killing all of humanity .

    The Verses of War

    The words that often causes consternation among those unfamiliar with Islam, is:

    “…and slay them wherever ye catch them…”

    The truth is that this is only part of the verse 191 of Chapter 2 of the Qur’an. Let us read the verses 190 to 191 in order to get a complete picture:

    “Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.”

    [Al-Qur’an 2:190-191]

    It is a well-known fact of Islamic history, that fighting against aggressors was prohibited during the first thirteen years of the Prophet’s mission. After Muslims migrated to Madina , the verses above were revealed to enable the community to fight in self-defense. The verses that follow clearly indicate Islam’s prohibition on aggression and inclination towards peace:

    “But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.”

    [Al-Qur’an 2:192-193]

    The verses above specifically refer to fighting against oppression and in defense of religious freedom as the Glorious Qur’an says:

    “Let there be no compulsion in religion”

    [Al-Qur’an 2:256]

    Fair-dealing towards all

    When read in context, the above verses do not even remotely suggest an exhortation for Muslims to be vicious or hateful towards people of other faiths. Far from this, the Qur’an actually requires that Muslims conduct themselves with fairness and dignity in all matters, and especially in regard to interfaith relations, as indicated by the following verse:

    “Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

    [Al-Qur’an 60:8]

    • mbplee

      ZakirHussain, Thank you for raising these misconceptions about the interpretations of the Quran and suggesting that due consideration be given to the context from which the phrase was derived. Please let me correct the misconceptions of most Muslims of the following:

      (1) ZH: “Let there be no compulsion in religion” [Al-Qur’an 2:256]

      mbplee: Your quote is totally out of context and thus misleading. The complete text must always be read as a couplet:

      Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from error; whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith, the patrons are the Evil Ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire to dwell therein (Hell Fires) (for ever).
      Surah 2:256–57

      As I read the couplet, the only choice is between Allah and Shaitan. That is not freedom of choice or religion, it is a compulsion of either choosing Allah or burning in Hell. So the phrase is totally misleading. Because the Quran continues:
      Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

      So any doubts that Islam will tolerate any other god than Allah is totally misguided. There is total compulsion in Islam.

      (2) ZakirHussain:“…take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.”

      [Al-Qur’an 6:151]

      Islam considers all life forms as sacred. However, the sanctity of human life is accorded a special place. The first and the foremost basic right of a human being is the right to live.

      mbplee: The key words are, “which Allah hath made sacred.” These are clearly Muslims he has made sacred. Because Allah has said:
      Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them (disbelievers of Islam) wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing…
      but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)”
      It is clear that Islam does NOT consider disbelievers of Islam as lives that are sacred. This verse makes it very clear, Allah does not consider non-Muslims lives as equal to that of Muslim lives. So this is another popular Islamic misconception that must be destroyed.

      ZakirHussain: “Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. [Al-Qur’an 60:8]

      mbplee: And yet within the full context of the Quran we find the following verses that contradict Quran 60:8. Which part of the Quran is believable?

      Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”

      Quran (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.”

      Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

      Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

      Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”. This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘joining companions to Allah’).

      Quran (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today’s suicide bombers.

      Quran (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

      Quran (4:89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”

      Conclusion: Muslims have been misled in their readings of the Quran and cannot even see the obvious. Let’s hope some Muslims will study in greater depth their own scriptures and get the true meanings of the Quran instead of some perverted interpretations.

  10. Beau Bassett

    Muslims will continue to kill so long as there quaran is in there hands. When the quaran is burned and every mosque torn down then bombings, shootings, beheadings, will not happen in the order they have done for the past 1500 years. For what I am doing is blasphemy to the prophet and to any willing muslims they would wish death upon me because I am an unbeliever, ask why there is such little religious freedom in the middle east? because unbelieveing results in death, and nobody wants death upon themselves. Many gay muslims do so in the most private of places and when found to have sinned they often are thrown from buildings or beheaded, just like what ISIL does. Many Iranians and kurds are tolerable muslims but true sunni muslims are a cancer that has caused great harm to the advancment of humans on earth and earth as a whole.

    • mbplee

      BeauBassett, Yes, all you have said is correct and true. Because Islam discourages independent inquiry most Muslims only know the interpretations that their Imams wish them to have. Most of the times, such interpretations are out of context of the Quranic teachings and misleading and wrong. Hence Muslims have only a regimented outlook on the literal immutable word of Allah. Yes, the ideology belongs to the culture of the 7th century and is no longer applicable in modern society.

      • Azzam Khan (@azzamk10)

        You are a joke sir!. How do you know what ‘Muhammads intended meaning was?

      • mbplee

        AzzamKhan,because I read the whole of the Quran in its proper context. Not out of context like so many Muslims do. You have to understand Islamic Dualism.

    • mbplee

      Sorry, unable to respond.

  11. John O'Meara

    I would like to ask mbplee whether his belief/stance is that, as one who reads the Quran accurately, he wishes to see the extermination of non-believers, or whether it is the opposite: that by presenting ‘a true reading of the Quran’ he is trying to discredit Islam and discourage people from following it.

    • mbplee

      JohnO’Meera, Muslims like to present Islam in a favourable light and to do this they often practice Taqiyya (Lies) or quote statements completely out of context to mislead and deceive non-Believers and often themselves included. As the Quran contains the immutable words of Allah, it is often not possible to argue against Allah’s pronouncements. As I can only use the Quran as authentic support for my arguments, I have to establish if those statements are “out of context and thus misleading.” I take the Quran as a Whole and that all concepts are inter-related within the Quran and that the correct concept can be found by evaluating all the verses as one.

      For example when Muslims claim that “there is no compulsion in Islam” but another command in the Quran says: “But the god of you all is the One Allah.there is no god but He: all things He comprehends in His knowledge. (Surah Ta Ha, 98)” So both cannot be right.The latter verse must override the previous. These are the misconceptions in Islam that need to be clarified.

      No, John O’Meera, I am not trying to discredit Islam, I am attempting to show the erroneous interpretations adopted by Muslims of their own Holy Quran, because some Imam choose to distort the truth either out of ignorance or for malicious purposes.

      Only by knowing the truth can we make good judgements for ourselves. I will always try to dispute Taqiyya (lies) of Islam because I have made the effort to learn about Islam.

      • John O'Meara

        Thank you for the clarification. I’m not qualified to argue interpretations of the Quran, but I suspect that truth won’t emerge from textual analysis; rather, I think it will be found in how people behave towards each other, and from this perspective I find, thankfully, that truth is widespread amongst people of all beliefs and none.

  12. Salaman

    You are all a disgrace to Islam. You have misinterpreted the Quran and the teachings
    Of our Holy Prophet Saw to benefit your own violent minds and hatred to those who do not fit in with your beliefs. The Prophet Saw was a man of peace who forbid the harming of people in any form lest it be you are under attack. One day you will leave this Earth and Allah will show you the truth. Allah is the Most Merciful, only HE can judge and decide who lives and dies. You are not a prophet or God to try to brainwash people into believing that anyone who isn’t a Muslim has no worth to their life. You should make Duaa and ask Allah to open your heart and mind to the truth instead of letting the shaytan convince you of these hatred beliefs. Focus on yourselves instead of preaching to people. May Allah have mercy and forgiveness on all of you for twisting our beautiful religion.

    • mbplee

      Salaman, Thank you for your views. Unfortunately you are totally OUT OF CONTEXT OF THE QURAN and thus you have been misguided. Pray to Allah to give you eyes that can see or a mind that can perceive clearly. Bless you!

  13. John O'Meara

    Just to clarify, I don’t myself think that mpb lee is an accurate reader of the Quran, because I suspect that the Quran should not be read in a rationalistic/fault-finding/’Western’ way – that this is to miss the point; rather it is in ‘experiencing’ it (and importantly in the original language) that people find valuable truths. I also believe that Islamic scholarship has paid a lot of attention to historical context, which Mr. Lee largely misses out. But I am no expert, and don’t want to be in a prolonged debate. I am just grateful that the area in which I live is richer and safer as a result of the Muslims who live here as well.

    • mbplee

      John O’Meara, I am so pleased that you feel richer and safer amongst your Muslim neighbours. May you always enjoy such confidence. But we live in a free country and we are blessed with Freedom of Thought and Views. I have expressed mine as comprehensively as possible for others to accept or reject as they please. I have spent many years studying Islam and I feel confident I know what I am talking about. It is up to you to accept or reject it.

  14. Mahmood

    Dear author,

    As a Muslim brother, I sincerely advise you ask for forgiveness from Allah, the Almighty, for your highly strange and unprofessional analysis. Brother, please do not be offended. If you wish to write articles on Islam, you should enrol yourself in Islamic university. You will truly be repentful for the psychotic words you preach. May Allah almighty forgive you after you repent and not burn you in hell fire.

    Why do you want to cause trouble, my brother? If the Quran says, ‘If a person kills someone, it is as though he has killed all of mankind’, why do you want to add more words to that and state Christians and Jews etc are an exception? Brother, you know that is a grave sin to change the Quran’s words – this is in one of the very first few pages of the Quran in fact. If you cannot fund an Islamic degree, you can also practice SATs, which is an American system of examining words. Do not worry that it is American, it is used internationally also and it will InshAllah comfort you in its interpretation techniques moving forward. Please, my friend, I am very afraid for you. Oh Allah, please guide our brother to the right path and do not lead him astray, as you say in Surah Fatiha. Oh Allah, please one day if brother marries a Mo’mineen, that is a Christian or Jew, as you state Muslims can do in Surah Bakarah, let brother not kill his wife in the night. Oh Allah, teach brother to compress his fiery temper and remind him as you say in 6:107 that you have not made our brother the non-muslim keeper, nor guardian over them too. Oh Allah, by all means, encourage brother to praise our Iman but let him read the verses the he may have missed somehow when perhaps distracted by worldly possessions, that there is no compulsion on religion (2:256) and that if the people of other religions choose to dispute us, You are very instructive about what to do next and that is to say, `God best knows (the value of) what you do (22.67)’. Praise to thee, God. Oh Allah, please help brother reach and inhale the perfume of paradise by encouraging him to also read and practice the hadith of our beloved Prophet, peace be upon him. For,
    “whoever kills a person who has a truce with the Muslims will never smell the fragrance of Paradise (Saheeh Muslim).” Finally my brother, a stark warning from Abu Dawud’s recording of a hadith from the messenger of Allah (PBUH):

     “Beware! Whoever is cruel and hard on a non-Muslim minority, or curtails their rights, or burdens them with more than they can bear, or takes anything from them against their free will; I (Prophet Muhammad) will complain against the person on the Day of Judgment.”

    My brother, we fear for you but will not lose hope. Pray in 2/3rds of the night when Allah is listening the most. You should endeavour fasting, my friend, out of Ramadan, and inshAllah, praise Allah, our almighty Allah will forgive you before your life ends. I suggest 4 months fasting this year but maybe you can do it 1 month per season. Oh Allah, let him repent, oh Allah, show your mercy, oh Allah, may he be saved from the burning hellfire once he asks for your forgiveness, oh Allah, let him be saved from eternal burning in the Pits, inshAllah.

  15. Gul Khan Mohmand

    The preacher (now a days) , with his wealth of anecdote and wordy legend. Little has to tell if truth, for all his fine grandiloquence.

    Dear Brother or sister or whatever!!!

    All the verses of Quran you quoted was wonderful hard work of yours to find all these and post it..

    Now let me tell you to learn something.. Quran was completed in 23 years😀 not in one night or on week or month.. You should have read the begining of Islam from 1 Man (Prophet Muhammad SAW) and how Islam spread and the whole scenario of Fights they had with Arab pagans … Not christian or Jewish

    Many verses in which you tried to show that Quran in which ALLAH asked muslim to kill non believers it was the time when 313 first Muslim were surrounded by 10K non believers and were about to get killed. some of the revealations of verses that you mentioned were at the time when Pagan Arab wanted to kill Prophet Muhammad…SAW

    if muslim were asked to kill non believers… ISIS should not cross thousand of kilometers in Paris to kill innocent people instead of going few hundred kilometer in israel to kill Jewish …

    all i would do is to ask for forgiveness for you…

    • mbplee

      Gul Khan Mohmand: Thank you for your comments which I have approved for all to see.
      Unfortunately I do not believe that the Quran was written in 23 years nor was Muhammad the originator of the Quran. I believe that:

      (1) Many don’t know the Koran was an enlarged, revised version of the ancient Word of the Goddess Kore, revered by Mohammed’s tribe, the Koreshites (Children of Kore), who guarded her shrine at Mecca.

      The original writing was done long before Mohammed’s time by holy imams, a word related to Semitic imp, “mother.”

      (2) It was said they took the scriptures from a prototype that existed in heaven from the beginning of eternity, “Mother of the Book” – i.e., the Goddess herself, wearing the Book of Fate on her breast as Mother Tiamat wore the Tablets of Destiny. Sometimes the celestial Koran was called the ***Preserved Tablet.

      (3) There was some resemblance between this and other legendary books of divine origin, such as the ***Ur-text, ***the Book of Thoth and the ***Emerald Tablet of Hermes. As in the case of the Judeo-Christian Bible, the Koran was much rewritten to support new patriarchal laws and to obliterate the figures of the Goddess and her priestesses.

      *****14.1 LAUH MAHFOOZ: The tablet that is protected from any alterations.

      *****14.2 UMM-UL-KITAAB: Because it is the collection of all the Laws, rules and orders of Allah.

      *****14.3 IMAAMUM MUBEEN: Because everything is already written in it.

      *****14.4 KITAABUM MAKNOON: Because its contents are not known to anyone except Allah. [2]

      *****The Preserved Tablet is the Book in which Allaah had written the predestination of His Creation before He created them.

      Allaah Says (what means): {Do you not know that Allaah knows what is in the heaven and earth? Indeed, that is in a Record.}[Quran 22:70] Ibn ‘Atiyyah said: “This (i.e. the Record) is the Preserved Tablet.” Moreover, the Prophet said: “First of all, there was nothing but Allaah and (then He created His throne). His Throne was over the water, and He wrote everything in the Book (in the heaven) and created water, the heavens and the earth.” Ibn Hajar said: “What is meant with Reminder here is the Preserved Tablet.”

      *****As regards the location of this Book, it is in the seventh heaven, as stated by Ash-Shawkaani from some scholars from among our righteous predecessors. However, we are not aware of any authentic narration which clarifies when it was exactly created. *****However, it is confirmed that the Prophet said: “Allaah has decreed the destiny of all the creatures 50,000 years before He created the heavens and the earth.” [Muslim]

      Guy Khan, from the above, it would seem that there is a lot about the Quran that you did not even know. So go and do some deep research to find out more about the mythical origins of the Quran.

  16. Muhammad Barkaat Hussain

    Dear mbplea
    I sincerely wish and pray that Almighty God show all of us His right path. The whole world is one community, created by only one God. People usually differ out of mutual jealously and they have divided themselves in different religions and sects. Every religion and sects claim they they are on Right Path. To find out which one is authentic, please spare some time of your busy life and ask directly from Almighty God with sincerity, O God if you are there please guide me towards your Right Path and keep on asking till you find the response. Definitely you will be guided towards His Right Path.

    • mbplee

      Muhammad Barkaat Hussain, thank you for your comments. Some day perhaps you may find the answers about Allah and his origins and perhaps realise that you are in fact praying to Allal-Hubal the original Allah of the Kaaba. There are unfortunately no “Right Path” to god, because the “Right Path” indicates that others are “Wrong Paths” hence you have just spelt out “Religious Supremacy” a sure path to death and destruction. THINK ON THAT MUHAMMAD. Let me end by quoting from my writings:

      “Supremacist Faiths Kill Others but It is Based on Mythological Beliefs

      Historical and archaeological evidence has proven that the Abrahamic Faiths, in fact all Faiths of this world, are based on mythical legends of imaginative and pious people of ancient times. The legendary figures of Adam and Eve and Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Jesus, and YHWH, Christian God, Allah, were mythical figures. They never existed and no one has ever proven that they existed. Thus any supremacist ideologies of any such faiths are man-created exclusive doctrines and does not belong to the Divine world. So today’s savagery and killings are based on the absolute supremacy of their god is nothing but false doctrines of that faith. If only the pious could be made to see and accept that faiths are based on myths, the world would be a better place to live in.”

  17. Ebrima Manneh

    Sharia Law made it clear who are innocent among the Muslims and non-Muslims, the prophet lived peacefully with non-Muslims, and there are plenty non-Muslims living in peace in Muslim countries.
    The problem is, those have no sound knowledge of the Qur’an pretend to be its expert.

    • mbplee

      E.Manneh, you cannot take a verse out of context of the Quran. It must also be in harmony with the tenor Of the rest of the context of the whole Quran. Those who attempt to pervert the true meaning for misleading the unwary are scoundrels and blasphemers.

    • mbplee

      ausieconservativeblog, and excellent analysis of Quran 5:32. We should always interpret the Quran in context with the rest of the Holly Book.

  18. rolf

    Have to say I learned a lot from this. Can I believe that the verses of violent nature is done in setting when the muslims where at war and surrounded and had no other option the defend back? Or is this a “supreme” ideology where a muslim life is above more important than a non muslim.

    • mbplee

      rolf, As I see it, Quran 5:32 means that a Muslim has no right to kill anther person/Miuslim unless he is guilty of Murder or makes Mischief [meaning speaks against Islam in any form; i.e., is a non-Muslim.]

      The meaning is straight forward.

  19. rolf

    If a person kills someone, it is as though he has killed all of mankind’, I have told that this sentence is not in the quran, I mean the original arabic. But is a translation regarding only the jews. Is this true? Can someone take a photo of the original and translate?

    • mbplee

      rolfeilert, I only have these translations:

      The Quranic Arabic Corpus – Translations

    • Muhammad Barkaat Hussain

      Dear Rolf Please find the original text in arabic and translation in english.

      مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَن قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَلَقَدْ جَاءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُم بَعْدَ ذَٰلِكَ فِي الْأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ

      From time that, We ordained on (the) Children (of) Israel that he who kills a soul other than (for) a soul or (for) spreading corruption in the earth then (it) is as if he has killed all [the] mankind, and whoever saves it then (it) is as if he has saved all [the] mankind. And surely came to them Our Messengers with clear Signs yet, indeed, many of them after that in the earth (are) surely those who commit excesses.
      For detail
      http://islamawakened.com/quran/5/32/

  20. Freddy

    Most of this article is false and misinterpretated. This person can’t be serious. When ever it mentions God saying fight them it’s because of self defense because it would be contra ticking the previous verses on the Quran about not killing any soul Muslim or non-Muslim. You have totally taken things out of context. The verse where it says killing a Muslim soul ????? It doesn’t mean that it says soul in Arabic not believers soul as if you killed all Nanking. It clearly states any soul without a good reason !!!!!!! Is as if you killed all mankind read the Quran good before you lie to your self and lie to the masses and go back to the first verses it says that even those infidels that want to kill you if they stop THEN GOD IS THE MOST FORGiVER !!!!!! What is wrong with you???????????. Stop deceiving yourself and the masses.

    • mbplee

      Farid_reda657 and rolfeilert1970 let me quote a lengthy quote to satisfy your confusion about Quran 5:32

      “The Holy Koran teaches that whoever kills an innocent, it is as if he has killed all mankind; and whoever saves a person, it is as if he has saved all mankind.” So said Obama is his speech at Cairo on June 4, 2009, intended to the Muslim world.

      This quote is taken from verse 5:32 of the “Holy Koran”. Let us first quote the full verse and see what it says (Yusuf Ali translation):

      “[005:032] On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.”
      The first thing to note is that, the command (allegedly of Allah) applies to the “Children of Israel” (i.e. Jews). It does not apply to Muslims. Probably, that is why you find a lot of killings of innocent civilians by extremist Muslims today. The extremist Muslims read nothing but the Koran and know their stuff better than the moderate Muslims and non-Muslims who don’t read the Quran.

      Secondly, the verse does not use the word “innocent” anywhere, in any translation, which you can see at this link from Islamist site.

      Thirdly, a person can be slain for (i) murder or (ii) for spreading mischief in the land (fasad). Now what is spreading mischief in the land (fasad)? The next verse 5:33 says:

      The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
      Let us see from other ayats, what this “spreading mischief” means:

      Quran 7:103: Then after them We sent Moses with Our signs to Pharaoh and his chiefs, but they wrongfully rejected them: So see what was the end of those who made mischief(Mufisdoon).[So rejecting prophet /not converting to Islam is “mischief” and non-Muslims can be put to death]

      Quran 8:73: The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another: Unless ye do this, (protect each other), there would be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief. [So, again unbelievers are mischief-makers-Providing Muslims equal citizenship rights and all rights -this would make us “mischief makers”]

      Now let us see some of the renowned Tafsirs, how they define “mischief”:

      “Because of that, which Cain did, We decreed for the Children of Israel that whoever slays a soul for other than a soul, slain, or for, other than, corruption, committed, in the land, in the way of unbelief, fornication or waylaying and the like, it shall be as if he had slain mankind altogether; and whoever saves the life of one, by refraining from slaying, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind — Ibn ‘Abbās said [that the above is meant] in the sense of violating and protecting its [a soul’s] sanctity [respectively]. Our messengers have already come to them, that is, to the Children of Israel, with clear proofs, miracles, but after that many of them still commit excesses in the land, overstepping the bounds through disbelief, killing and the like.” [Tafsir Al Jalalyn]

      “…Sa’id bin Jubayr said, “He who allows himself to shed the blood of a Muslim, is like he who allows shedding the blood of all people. He who forbids shedding the blood of one Muslim, is like he who forbids shedding the blood of all people.” In addition, Ibn Jurayj said that Al-A`raj said that Mujahid commented on the Ayah, (it would be as if he killed all mankind) “He who kills a believing soul intentionally, Allah makes the Fire of Hell his abode, He will become angry with him, and curse him, and has prepared a tremendous punishment for him, equal to if he had killed all people, his punishment will still be the same.” Ibn Jurayj said that Mujahid said that the Ayah, (and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) means, “He who does not kill anyone, then the lives of people are safe from him.” [Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir]

      Now I will examine the full story behind that verse. Recall that the verse commenced with “On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel”. Now the questions are:

      On what account?

      Was it really ordained for the Children of Israel by God? Was it there in the Torah?

      For this, we need to examine verses 5.27-5.31 of the Quran, which narrate the story of two sons of Adam:

      Recite to them the truth of the story of the two sons of Adam. Behold! they each presented a sacrifice (to God): It was accepted from one, but not from the other. Said the latter: “Be sure I will slay thee.” “Surely,” said the former, “God doth accept of the sacrifice of those who are righteous. If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. For me, I intend to let thee draw on thyself my sin as well as thine, for thou wilt be among the companions of the fire, and that is the reward of those who do wrong. The (selfish) soul of the other led him to the murder of his brother: he murdered him, and became (himself) one of the lost ones. Then God sent a raven, who scratched the ground, to show him how to hide the shame of his brother. “Woe is me!” said he; “Was I not even able to be as this raven, and to hide the shame of my brother?” then he became full of regrets.

      “Recite to them the truth of the story of the two sons of Adam. Behold! they each presented a sacrifice (to God): It was accepted from one, but not from the other”… Nothing is very clear in these verses unless we refer the Torah, where the story of Abel and Cain, the sons of Adam, is narrated. Now Quran does not even contain the names of the two sons of Adam and their sacrifices to God. So what is the purpose of repeating the incomplete story in the Quran, when the complete one is already narrated in the Torah as this:

      …And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto HaShem. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And HaShem had respect unto Abel and to his offering; but unto Cain and to his offering He had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
      The rejection of Cain’s offering made him jealous and he killed Abel. Now what has this got to do with verse 5.32? Only one individual was murdered. There was no intent/action on part of Cain to commit mass murders. Secondly, this verse 5.32 said to be ordained for Jews is not found in Torah at all. It is found in Talmud. Let us see what Talmud says in Mishnah Sanhedrin:

      You may also be aware of the fact that there is no similarity between civil and criminal cases. In civil cases one may repay the money damage and he is atoned; but in criminal cases the blood of the person executed, and of his descendants to the end of all generations, clings to the originator of his execution. So do we find in the case of Cain, who slew his brother. It reads [Gen. iv. 10]: “The voice of the ‘bloods’ of thy brother are crying unto me from the ground.” It does not read “blood,” but “bloods,” which means his blood and the blood of his descendants. [According to others it reads “bloods” in the plural, because his blood was scattered all over the trees and stones.] Therefore the man was created singly, to teach that he who destroys one soul of a human being, the Scripture considers him as if he should destroy a whole world, and him who saves one soul of Israel, the Scripture considers him as if he should save a whole world. And also because of peace among creatures, so that one should not say: My grandfather was greater than yours; and also that the heretic shall not say: There are many creators in heaven; and also to proclaim the glory of the Holy One, blessed be He. For a human being stamps many coins with one stamp, and all of them are alike; but the King of the kings of kings, the Holy One, blessed be He, has stamped every man with the stamp of Adam the First, and nevertheless not one of them is like the other. Therefore every man may say: The world was created for my sake, hence I must be upright, just, etc.

      Thus, the verse—“he who destroys one soul of a human being, the Scripture considers him as if he should destroy a whole world, and him who saves one soul of Israel, the Scripture considers him as if he should save a whole world”—is not there in the sacred Torah. Actually, it was the commentary or interpretation of Jewish scholars/Rabbis of the Torah. The above commentary explains Genesis 4:10 and also the spiritual significance of the Adam and Eve story. It explains why only one Adam was created and not multiple of Adams. Muhammad, from his patchy knowledge, failed to figure out that this was a commentary on Genesis 4.10 and the significance of the creation of Adam story, and mistook it to be a revealed text. He distorted the sublime teachings of Talmud to this:
      On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

      In fact, many Muslims do not quote the full text of verse 5.32, because it is a badly messed up and distorted version of the original from the Talmud, and that quoting the full verse will cause them embarrassment. In this context, it is worth examining Maulana Maududi’s comments:

      It is a pity that the precious words which embody God’s ordinance are to be found nowhere in the Bible today. The Talmud, however, does mention this subject…… The Talmud also mentions that in trials for murder, the Israelite judges used to address the witnesses as follows: Whoever kills one person, merits punishment as if he had slain all the men in the world.

      Maududi acknowledges that the verse 5.32, said to be revealed by God to the Jews, are not there in Torah but in the Talmud. But he cleverly conceals the full context, in which these words are found in the Talmud.

      Conclusion

      Muhammad, aka Allah, erroneously mistook Quran 5:32 to be a revealed verse of the Torah. He didn’t know that it was in the Talmud and couldn’t figure out how “Whoever kills one person, merits punishment as if he had slain all the men in the world” was connected to the Abel and Cain story.

      http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/82-jabali/65-killing-humanity-obama-misinterprets-quran-532-passes-noble-jewish-teaching-as-islamic.html

  21. yasir

    You my freind are sick

    • mbplee

      yasir, I am sorry you possess no logic.

  22. ihsanullah

    Islam is the name of love dear.the reference are wrong

    • mbplee

      ihsanullah, please quote Verse and chapter to support your claim.

  23. KAICI

    Ibn `Abbas says: The Messenger of Allah, when dispatching his troops, would tell them, ” ..Do not behave treacherously, nor misappropriate war-booty, nor mutilate [those whom you kill], nor kill children, nor the people in cloisters.” (Musnad Ahmad, Sunan At-Tirmidhî)
    Another narration records that he said, “…Do not kill a woman, nor a child, nor an old-aged man’ (Sharh as-Sunnah Al-Baghawî)
    Narrated Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet said: Go in Allah’s name, trusting in Allah, and adhering to the religion of Allah’s Apostle. Do not kill a decrepit old man, a young infant, or a child, or a woman; do not be dishonest about booty, but collect your spoils, do right and act well, for Allah loves those who do well. (Sunan Abî Dawûd)
    And again, “Do not kill a child, nor a woman, nor an old man, nor obliterate a stream, nor cut a tree…” (Sunan Al-Bayhaqî)

    how merciful and noble the prophet was, a true prophet of God would never order the slaughter of women and children, a true prophet would spare them since they are innocent of what their men do, and that is exactly what the prophet did.

    • mbplee

      Kaiti I suppose you are not aware of the following:

      “Saheeh Bukhari
      Volumn 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 256.

      Narated By As-Sab bin Jaththama : The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).” I also heard the Prophet saying, “The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle.”

      So please do not quote out of context.

      • KAICI

        however islam is a religion of love peace and tolerance
        .judging islam on the basis of a few muslims or false hadiths is like eating a rotten fruit and blaming the whole tree

      • Muhammad Barkaat Hussain

        My dear mbplee- Please read Holy Quran and Holy Hadiths in its complete form putting biased at one side with open heart and mind. You shall realize that our Creator consider His creation as one family. A person is honorable before God Almighty who is good to His family. You shall find hundreds of verses in Holy Quran and more than in Holy Hadiths which promote peace, harmony, empathy and altruism. However, at the same time Islam advice not to remain silent against crime and curruption and proposes severe punishment who make crime or curruption in society. The above mentioned hadith is authentic which you mentioned and is related to criminals people, which are threat to society.

      • mbplee

        MUHD HUSSAIN, you may be correct. Is so then all the Muslims in this world must be wrong. Look around you and tell me when was there ever a period of compassion in Islam? Perhaps, the Quran was never the word of Allah but of ambitious men?

  24. mbplee

    KAICI, please provide citations that Islam is a religion of love, peace and tolerance. The Quran proves otherwise, i.e.

    The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
    Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by historical context contained in the surrounding text (although many Muslims choose to think of them that way). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.

    The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God. Most contemporary Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book’s call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Their apologists cater to these preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.

    Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad’s own martial legacy, along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran, have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.
    https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

    Also read this:
    http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/20975

    • KAICI

      Islam according to the Quran teaches love and compassion for every human being, no matter their religion, says author Adnan Oktar whose television show is watched by millions in Turkey and the Arab world. He believes the problem for the majority of Muslims is that some groups are following traditions and superstitions invented centuries after the Quran was first sent and the Prophet lived, and these have gotten more radical over time.
      “There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2/ 256)

      As stated in the verse, no one can be compelled to live by Islamic morals. Conveying the existence of God and the morals of the Qur’an to other people is a duty for believers, but they call people to the path of God with kindness and love and they never force them. It is only God Who guides people to the right way. This is related in the following verse:

      “You cannot guide those you would like to but God guides those He wills. He has best knowledge of the guided.” (Holy Quran/28: 56)
      he Quran provides an environment where people can fully enjoy freedom of thought and freedom of religion and allows people to live by the faith and values they believe in. According to Islam, everyone has the right to live freely by his beliefs, whatever they may be. Anyone who wants to support a church, a synagogue or a mosque must be free to do so. In this sense, freedom of religion, or freedom of belief, is one of the basic tenets of Islam. There is always freedom of religion wherever the moral values of the Qur’an prevail.
      That is why Muslims also treat Jews and Christians, described in the Qur’an as “the People of the Book,” with great justice, love and compassion. God says in the Qur’an:

      “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8)
      Muslims who share these basic values believe in the need to act together with Christians and Jews. They therefore strive to eliminate prejudices stemming from provocations by unbelievers and fanatics. Jews, Christians and Muslims should strive together to spread moral virtues across the world.

      God explicitly states that the existence of people from different faiths and opinions is something that we have to acknowledge and welcome heartily, for this is how He created and predestined humankind in this world:

      “We have appointed a law and a practice for every one of you. Had God willed, He would have made you a single community, but He wanted to test you regarding what has come to you. So compete with each other in doing good. Every one of you will return to God and He will inform you regarding the things about which you differed.” (Surat al-Ma’ida, 48)

      In acknowledgment of this fact, Muslims have an inner love and compassion for people of all faiths, races and nations, for they consider them as the manifestations of God in this world and treat them with an heartfelt respect and love. This is the very basis of communities administered by Islamic morality.

      The values of the Qur’an hold a Muslim responsible for treating all people, whether Muslim or non-Muslim, kindly and justly, protecting the needy and the innocent and “preventing the dissemination of mischief”. Mischief comprises all forms of anarchy and terror that remove security, comfort and peace.

      “God does not love corruption”. (Surat al-Baqara, 205)

    • KAICI

      As only the Islamophobes, who hate Islam or those Muslims, who want to enforce Shariah Law, of their imagination, by hook or crook, make headlines, the compassionate teachings of the Holy Quran are lost to the ordinary, non-Muslim observer.

      The Holy Quran talks about One God and one human family.

      Here, I want to stress the Quranic message of compassion, love and kindness by cataloging, as many verses, as I can, realizing that it can never be an exhaustive list as other readers will continue to find new ideas of mercy and grace in other verses of the Holy Quran.

      I will count the verses, in this post, as I go along.

      The Quran stresses that righteousness is not in precise observance of the rituals but in acts of compassion and kindness. It says that the litmus test for true belief and genuine worship is that it leads to compassionate living:

      1. It is not righteousness that you turn your faces to the East or the West, but truly righteous is he who believes in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Book and the Prophets, and spends his money for love of Him, on the kindred and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and those who ask for charity, and for ransoming the captives; and who observes Prayer and pays the Zakat; and those who fulfill their promise when they have made one, and the patient in poverty and afflictions and the steadfast in time of war; it is these who have proved truthful and it is these who are the God-fearing. (Al Quran 2:178)
      Every Friday in the second part of the sermon, Muslims all over the world hear a verse, which stresses, justice, kindness and natural mutual love as among the closest blood relatives:

      2. Indeed, Allah enjoins justice, and the doing of good to others; and giving like kindred; and forbids indecency, and manifest evil, and wrongful transgression. He admonished you that you may take heed. (Al Quran 16:91)
      Allah says that to be godly is to be compassionate. He makes His relationship or His Providence to the common man, conditional to common human compassion, by claiming that those, who wish to find Him, will succeed only if they are kind and compassionate to the common people:

      3. And as for those who strive in Our path — We will surely guide them in Our ways. And Indeed, Allah is with those who are of service to others. (Al Quran 29:70)

      4. Indeed, Allah is with those who are righteous and those who do good. (Al Quran 16:129)
      Allah says that we should be the first and take initiative to do good to others, but, if others have been kind to us, in the first place, we have no choice, but to return the favor:

      5. The reward of goodness is nothing but goodness. (Al Quran 55:61)
      In one of the verses, which is recited at the time of marriage ceremony, Allah links the responsibility owed to Him to kind treatment of the in-laws relationships:

      6. O ye people! fear your Lord, Who created you from a single soul and created therefrom its mate, and from them twain spread many men and women; and fear Allah, in Whose name you appeal to one another, and be mindful of your duty to Allah, particularly respecting ties of relationship. Verily, Allah watches over you. (Al Quran 4:2)
      In the very beginning of every chapter or Sura of the Holy Quran, except one, we read, “In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.”

      Allah is not only the Gracious and the Merciful, but, also wants humanity to be gracious and merciful, to each other, in their spheres and this can be inferred from many verses of the Holy Quran.

      As this verse is in the beginning of 113 chapters, except for Sura Taubah and in the middle of one Sura, it really sky rockets my count of verses here.

      7-120. In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
      Let me make a suggestion here, now, that we have 120 instructions from the All Knowing God, to be kind, merciful and compassionate.

      Anyone, who has conscious or unconscious desire to benefit from political Islam, should first try this repeated teaching of being compassionate for a few decades. May be it will assuage his or her political ambition and bring him or her to true teachings of Islam.

      The Holy Quran suggests compassion and kindness to be a recipe to turn ones enemies into bosom friends:

      121-122. And good and evil are not alike. Repel evil with that which is best. And lo, he between whom and thyself was enmity will become as though he were a warm friend. But none is granted it save those who are steadfast; and none is granted it save those who possess a large share of good. (Al Quran 41:35-36)
      Now, I am going to catalog all occurrences of the word “Mohsin,” in Arabic, in the Quran, in singular or plural form, as it means, one who does good and is of service to others. Two of these occurrences have already been counted above and I will not repeat those here:

      123. It shall be no sin for you if you divorce women while you have not touched them, nor settled for them a dowry. But provide for them — the rich man according to his means and the poor man according to his means — a provision in a becoming manner, an obligation upon the virtuous. (Al Quran 2:237)

      124. Those who spend in prosperity and adversity, and those who suppress anger and pardon men; and Allah loves those who do good. (Al Quran 3:135)

      125. So Allah gave them the reward of this world, as also an excellent reward of the next; and Allah loves those who do good. (Al Quran 3:149)

      126. And who is better in faith than he who submits himself to Allah, and he is a doer of good, and follows the religion of Abraham, the upright? And Allah took Abraham for a special friend. (Al Quran 4:126)

      127. So, because of their breaking their covenant, We have cursed them, and have hardened their hearts. They pervert the words from their proper places and have forgotten a good part of that with which they were exhorted. And thou wilt not cease to discover treachery on their part, except in a few of them. So pardon them and turn away from them. Surely, Allah loves those who do good. (Al Quran 5:14)

      128. So Allah rewarded them, for what they said, with Gardens beneath which streams flow. Therein shall they abide; and that is the reward of those who do good. (Al Quran 5:86)

      129. On those who believe and do good works there shall be no sin for what they eat, provided they fear God and believe and do good works, and again fear God and believe, yet again fear God and do good. And Allah loves those who do good. (Al Quran 5:94)

      130. And We gave him Isaac and Jacob; each did We guide aright, and Noah did We guide aright aforetime, and of his progeny, David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward those who do good. (Al Quran 6:85)

      131. And remember the time when We said: “Enter this village and eat therefrom — wherever you will — plentifully; and enter the gate submissively and say: ‘God! forgive us our sins.’ We shall forgive you your sins and We shall give increase to those who do good. (Al Quran 2:59)

      132. And create not disorder in the earth after it has been set in order, and call upon Him in fear and hope. Surely, the mercy of Allah is nigh unto those who do good. (Al Quran 7:57)

      133. And when it was said to them, “Dwell in this town and eat therefrom wherever you will, and say, ‘God! lighten our burden,’ and enter the gate in humility, We shall forgive you your sins, and surely We shall give increase to those who do good.” (Al Quran 7:162)

      134. No blame lies on the weak, nor on the sick, nor on those who find naught to spend, if they are sincere to Allah and His Messenger. There is no cause of reproach against those who do good deeds; and Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful. (Al Quran 9:91)

      135. It was not proper for the people of Medina and those around them from among the Arabs of the desert that they should have remained behind the Messenger of Allah or that they should have preferred their own lives to his. That is because there distresses them neither thirst nor fatigue nor hunger in the way of Allah, nor do they tread a track which enrages the disbelievers, nor do they cause an enemy any injury whatsoever, but there is written down for them a good work on account of it. Surely, Allah suffers not the reward of those who do good to be lost. (Al Quran 9:120)

      136. And be thou steadfast; for surely, Allah suffers not the reward of the righteous to perish. (Al Quran 11:116)

      137. And when he attained his age of full strength, We granted him judgment and knowledge. And thus do We reward the doers of good. (Al Quran 12:23)

      138. And with him there entered the prison two young men. One of them said, ‘I saw myself in a dream pressing wine.’ And the other said, ‘I saw myself in a dream carrying upon my head bread of which the birds are eating. Inform us of the interpretation thereof; for we see thee to be of the righteous.’ (Al Quran 12:37)

      139. And thus did We establish Joseph in the land. He dwelt therein wherever he pleased. We bestow Our mercy on whomsoever We please, and We suffer not the reward of the righteous to perish. (Al Quran 12:57)

      140. They said, ‘O exalted one, he has a very aged father, so take one of us in his stead; for we see thee to be of those who do good.’ (Al Quran 12:79)

      141. They replied, ‘Art thou Joseph?’ He said, ‘Yes, I am Joseph and this is my brother. Allah has indeed been gracious to us. Verily, whoso is righteous and is steadfast — Allah will never suffer the reward of the good to be lost.’ (Al Quran 12:91)

      142. Their flesh reaches not Allah, nor does their blood, but it is your righteousness that reaches Him. Thus has He subjected them to you, that you may glorify Allah for His guiding you. And give glad tidings to those who do good. (Al Quran 22:38)

      143. And when he reached his age of full strength and attained maturity, We gave him wisdom and knowledge; and thus do We reward those who do good. (Al Quran 28:15)

      144. A guidance and a mercy for those who do good. (Al Quran 31:4)

      145. And he who submits himself completely to Allah, and is a doer of good, he has surely grasped a strong handle. And with Allah rests the end of all affairs. (Al Quran 31:23)

      146. ‘But if you desire Allah and His Messenger and the Home of the Hereafter, then truly Allah has prepared for those of you who do good a great reward.’ (Al Quran 33:30)

      147. Thus indeed do We reward those who do good. (Al Quran 37:81)

      148. ‘Thou hast indeed fulfilled the dream.’ Thus indeed do We reward those who do good. (Al Quran 37:106)

      149. Thus do We reward those who do good. (Al Quran 37:111)

      150. And We bestowed blessings on him and Isaac. And among their progeny are some who do good and others who clearly wrong themselves. (Al Quran 37:114)

      151. Thus indeed do We reward those who do good. (Al Quran 37:122)

      152. Thus indeed do We reward those who do good. (Al Quran 37:132)

      153. They will have with their Lord whatever they desire; that is the reward of those who do good. (Al Quran 39:35)

      154. “Or lest it should say, when it sees the punishment, ‘Would that there were for me a return to the world, I would then be among those who do good!’” (Al Quran 39:59)

      155. And before it there was the Book of Moses, a guide and a mercy; and this is a Book in the Arabic language fulfilling previous prophecies, that it may warn those who do wrong; and as glad tidings to those who do good. (Al Quran 46:13)

      156. Receiving what their Lord will give them; for they used to do good before that. (Al Quran 51:17)

      157. Thus surely do We reward those who do good. (Al Quran 77:45)

      158. Nay, whoever submits himself completely to Allah, and is the doer of good, shall have his reward with his Lord. No fear shall come upon such, neither shall they grieve. (Al Quran 2:113)

      159. And spend for the cause of Allah, and cast not yourselves into ruin with your own hands, and do good; surely, Allah loves those who do good. (Al Quran 2:196)
      When it comes to the specifics, as to who is most deserving of our compassion and kindness, the Holy Prophet Muhammad, may peace be on him, advised in favor of the mothers. There is a popular Hadith that almost every Muslim knows. A companion of the Prophet, asked him, “Who is most deserving of my good treatment?” “Your mother,” said the Prophet. Companion asked and then after her? “Your mother,” repeated the Prophet. It was only on the fourth query that the Prophet said, “Your father.”

      Those who accuse Islam of gender inequality have perhaps not heard of this Hadith!

      Let me, now, tabulate a few verses about the parents:

      160. And remember the time when We took a covenant from the children of Israel: ‘You shall worship nothing but Allah and show kindness to parents and to kindred and orphans and the poor, and speak to men kindly and observe Prayer, and pay the Zakat;’ then you turned away in aversion, except a few of you. (Al Quran 2:84)

      161. They ask thee what they shall spend. Say: ‘Whatever of good and abundant wealth you spend should be for parents and near relatives and orphans and the needy and the wayfarer. And whatever good you do, surely Allah knows it well.’ (Al Quran 2:216)

      162. And worship Allah and associate naught with Him, and show kindness to parents, and to kindred, and orphans, and the needy, and to the neighbor that is a kinsman and the neighbor that is a stranger, and the companion by your side, and the wayfarer, and those whom your right hands possess. Surely, Allah loves not the proud and the boastful. (Al Quran 4:37)

      163. Say, ‘Come, I will rehearse to you what your Lord has forbidden: that you associate not anything as partner with Him and that you do good to parents, and that you kill not your children for fear of poverty — it is We Who provide for you and for them — and that you approach not foul deeds, whether open or secret; and that you kill not the life which Allah has made sacred, save by right. That is what He has enjoined upon you, that you may understand. (Al Quran 6:152)

      ‘164. Our Lord, grant forgiveness to me and to my parents and to the believers on the day when the reckoning will take place.’ (Al Quran 14:42)

      165. Thy Lord has commanded, “Worship none but Him, and show kindness to parents. If one of them or both of them attain old age with thee, never say unto them any word expressive of disgust nor reproach them, but address them with excellent speech. (Al Quran 17:24)

      166. And We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents; but if they strive to make thee associate that with Me of which thou hast no knowledge, then obey them not. Unto Me is your return, and I shall inform you of what you did. (Al Quran 29:9)

      167. And We have enjoined on man concerning his parents — his mother bears him in weakness upon weakness, and his weaning takes two years — ‘Give thanks to Me and to thy parents. Unto Me is the final return. (Al Quran 31:15)

      168. And We have enjoined on man to be good to his parents. His mother bears him with pain, and brings him forth with pain. And the bearing of him and his weaning takes thirty months, till, when he attains his full maturity and reaches the age of forty years, he says, ‘My Lord, grant me the power that I may be grateful for Thy favour which Thou hast bestowed upon me and upon my parents, and that I may do such good works as may please Thee. And make my seed righteous for me. I do turn to Thee; and, truly, I am of those who submit to Thee.’ (Al Quran 46:16)
      There are additional verses about the parents in the Holy Quran, but, as I am feeling more comfortable about my target of 200, I am going to leave those and talk about the teachings about spouses:

      169. It is made lawful for you to go in unto your wives on the night of the fast. They are a garment for you, and you are a garment for them. (Al Quran 2:188)

      170. Consort with them in kindness; and if you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing wherein Allah has placed much good. (Al Quran 4:20)
      What does the Quran says about the weakest in our society, the orphans? Here, are a few vereses:

      171. And they ask thee concerning the orphans. Say: ‘Promotion of their welfare is an act of great goodness. And if you intermix with them, they are your brethren. And Allah knows the mischief-maker from the reformer. And if Allah had so willed, He would have put you to hardship. Surely, Allah is Mighty, Wise.’ (Al Quran 2:21)

      172. And if you fear that you will not be fair in dealing with the orphans, then marry of women as may be agreeable to you, two, or three, or four; and if you fear you will not deal justly, then marry only one or what your right hands possess. That is the nearest way for you to avoid injustice. (Al Quran 4:4)

      173. And when other relations and orphans and the poor are present at the division of heritage, give them something therefrom and speak to them words of kindness. (Al Quran 4:9)

      174. And they seek of thee the decision of the Law with regard to women. Say, Allah gives you His decision regarding them. And so does that which is recited to you in the Book concerning the orphan girls whom you give not what is prescribed for them and whom you desire to marry, and concerning the weak among children. And He enjoins you to observe equity towards the orphans. And whatever good you do, surely Allah knows it well. (Al Quran 4:128)

      175. So the orphan, oppress not. (Al Quran 93:10)
      The Holy Quran advises us to be compassionate to any one who asks for our favor:

      176. And him who seeks thy help, chide not. (Al Quran 93:11)
      Continuing with verses about kindness and compassion in general:

      177. Those who believe and do good deeds — the Gracious God will create love in their hearts. (Al Quran 19:97)
      One of the attributes of Allah is ‘The Merciful,’ Arabic word رحيم (Raheem) and the believers are required to emulate the attributes of Allah in their limited spheres. I just searched the word رحيم in Arabic search for the Quran in Alislam website and found that it occurs at least 227 times, including the first verse of each of the chapters of the Holy Quran, except for one. As we highlighted before, there are 114 mentions of “In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful,” in the Quran, which we have already counted.

      This gives me 113 additional mentions for being kind and merciful: 177 + 113 = 290.

      I saved one of the most important verses in this regards, for the very end, “And We (Allah) have sent thee (Muhammad) not but as a mercy for all peoples.” (Al Quran 21:108)

      Now our count here is 291.

      I rest my case!

      May Allah give us true understanding of our faith. Ameen!

      • mbplee

        kaici, I commend you on your efforts. But your quotes do not make sense and are out or context with the fundamental tone of the Holy Quran. The true tone of the Quran is the preaching of the superiority of Islam over all other beliefs. For Islam teaches that is “No god but Allah.” And that there is compulsion in Islam, i.e., accept Allah or Shaitan – that is the only choice available. All who do not accept Allah are infidels and are given the choice to submit to Allah or death. On this matter there is no choice.

        The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. There are no exceptions. Violence is so ingrained in Islam that it has never really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself.

        Then simply look around you today. Muslims are killing non-Muslims and Muslims by the thousands and behaving true to the doctrines of Islam as illustrated in the Quran. This sort of depravity has been going on for the past 1400 years and has never abated and all in accordance withs the teachings of the Quran. Read the Quran and see what is happening around you in the world, and you will see that I am more correct than all that hollow rhetoric that you have posted.

        Islam is an exclusive, totalitarian, supremacist, fascist doctrine that will never alter or moderate to accommodate any other religions or beliefs. It is time you get real and realise that your Islamic doctrines are totalitarian. It is up to Muslims to change it, if they can, if not, there will never be peace.

      • KAICI

        mbplee
        sorry but you are wrong ..what is “allah”? god in arabic.did you read Quran? i don t think so because you will see that islam respect all religions i mean all monotheists religions and if you want to blame anyone just blame those who are prohibiting girls to study in schools and prohibiting women to drive cars ..saudia arabia ,pakistan …are they practicing real islam? what said archange gabriel in mohammed when he was in ghar hira ” ikra “that means “read” ,aknowledgement ,preach education to your people and disregard ignorance ..what we see in the arabic world except algeria (my country)tunisia ,marocco and north africa ,is the opposite of what is teaches in islam..don t blame islam mbplee please blame muslims from these countries .Quran respect jesus and the virgin mary , do you forget what did emir abdelkader in damascus when he fought muslims because they tried to commit a genocide against a christian minority and he was decorated all over the world !!! my daughter is called meriem it means mary and aissa means jesus in arabic and moussa means moise the jew ..we give names to our children in tribute to prophets in torah bible or Quran .change your vision you are blind and you are wrong and i have no time to give you exemples of greatness soul of islam among history..what they did for humanity in science ,civilization and research..fascists and totalitarians are in your spoiled mind ..it s time for humanity to change and let muslims living in peace ..you are fascists by bombing irak for a lie !!killing millions of muslims just for oil…shame on you …killing lybians palestinians and now syrians ….atheist or believer we don t care about anyone we just want to live in peace so change your vision of trying to spoil our religion …you are the destoyers and don t try to change subject evocating the barbars in syria and irak its not enough to wear barb and say “allah akbar “to be a muslim ..you have to be an human ..that is ISLAM my religion and i am proud to be muslim ….you insulted my religion but i am peaceful and i reply “salam alikoum
        peace !

      • rolf

        There is really a war towards the worlds oil resources. Those who invaded Iraq, did it from a business plan perspective, they could not care about any religion , the only god the obey is money. They help creating problems, then they assert a solution for the problem they created in the first place. *All this to manipulate minds, to play on religions. For a religious person , any conflict got a religious perspective, for a political minded person, any conflict becomes political. I am in finance , so I see the oil companies doing their filthy business, only extended with wars, and abusing in the name of the religions.

      • mbplee

        Kaiti, you are mostly out of context and ignoring Muhammad’s abrogations.You are out of context with the spiritual intention of the Quran which is EXCLUSION, AND SUPERIORITY.

        “The Quran Distinguishes Muslims from Non-Muslims
        and Establishes a Hierarchy of Relative Worth

        The Quran makes it clear that Islam is not about universal brotherhood, but about the brotherhood of believers:
        The Believers are but a single Brotherhood (49:10)
        Not all men are equal under Islam. Slaves and the handicapped are not equal to healthy free men, for example (16:75-76). The Quran introduces the “Law of Equality,” which establishes different levels of human value when considering certain matters, such as restitution for murder (2:178).

        Neither are Muslim believers equal to non-Muslims:
        Are those who know equal to those who know not? (39:09)

        Is the blind equal to the one who sees” Or darkness equal to light? (13:16)

        A believing slave is superior to an unbeliever (2:221)
        The Quran plainly tells Muslims that they are a favored race, while those of other religions are “perverted transgressors”:
        Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book [Christians and Jews] had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (3:110)
        As we shall see later, Allah condemns non-Muslims to Hell based merely on their unbelief, while believers are rewarded with the finest earthly comforts in the hereafter, including never-ending food, wine and sex (56:12-40).

        Much of the Quran is devoted to distinguishing Muslims from non-Muslims and impugning the latter. Among other things, non-Muslims are said to be diseased (2:10), perverse (2:99), stupid (2:171) and deceitful (3:73).

        The first sura of the Quran is a short prayer that is repeated by devout Muslims each day and ends with these words:
        Keep us on the right path. The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors. Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down, nor of those who go astray. (1:6-7)
        Muhammad was once asked if this pertained to Jews and Christians. His response was, “Whom else?” (Bukhari 56:662).Since Allah makes such a strong distinction between Muslims and those outside the faith, it is only natural that Muslims should incorporate disparate standards of treatment into their daily lives. The Quran tells Muslims to be compassionate with one another but ruthless to the infidel:
        Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are severe against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves… (48:29)
        The Arabic word used to describe the ideal treatment of non-Muslims (shin-dal-dal) is the same word used in over 25 places in the Quran to describe how painful Allah has made Hell for them.

        Islamic law actually forbids formal Muslim charity (in the form of the zakat payment) from being used to meet the needs of non-believers.

        Allah intends for Muslims to triumph over unbelievers:
        And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way to triumph over believers [Pickthall – “any way of success”] (4:141)
        The only acceptable position of non-Muslims to Muslims is subjugation under Islamic rule:
        Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (9:29 Jizya is the money that non-Muslims must pay to their Muslim overlords in a pure Islamic state.)
        A common criticism of many Muslims is that they often behave arrogantly toward others. Now you know why.”

        Look around you, the world is in turmoil, killings, rape, genocide, millions of lives lost each day, and you claim that Islam preaches Peace and C|ompassion. It you are correct we should be living in peace, instead we are out to kill one another. What then is wrong with Islam because all the turmoil and unrest is coming out of Islam.

        Stop and Think on this and find an answer from within you.

      • KAICI

        exclusion and superiority ? you know “el fatiha “the first verset we read when we pray ..”el hamdoulillah rabi el alamine ” [All] praise is [due] to Allah , Lord of the worlds -lord of the worlds not of the muslims only ..lord of the christians and rhe jews and the universe
        One of the issues that we must bring to the fore is the fact that the Quran forbids us from judging others. This has been expressed clearly in many verses.

        Quran 88:25: For behold, unto Us will be their return,
        Quran 88:26: Then it will be for (only) Us to call them to account.

        By using the Arabic word “Inna” – which means “We” (i.e., God) – to begin 88:26 is a clear indication that it is ONLY God who can judge humans. To better comprehend why it is that humans are not capable (or allowed) to pass judgment against their fellow man, I offer the following analogy: Consider, for a moment, a long, stretching river – let’s call it “The River of Truth.” People are swimming at various points along this river. Now, let’s assume that absolute truth lay at the very end of the river, say, point 100. Based on this, we would assume that the person swimming alongside point 95 is closer to the Truth – and therefore better – than the person swimming alongside point 5.

        However, what if the fact was that the closer person had started out at 100, and had actually drifted away from the truth by 5, whereas the further person had actually started at 0 and was now 5 closer to the Truth? While it would be impossible for us to know this – it is not impossible for God, for He would certainly know this about both persons, He would know that the person on 5 was striving hard (that is, performing Jihad) for Truth’s sake. Based on this all too plausible scenario, it becomes obvious that in the eyes of God, the man on point 5 of the River of Truth is better than the person on point 95. It is for this very reason that the Quran has unequivocally stated that ONLY God can pass judgment on humans:

        22:17 Those who believe (in the Qur’an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians (can mean certain ancient religion or people with no specific religion), Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for God (alone) is witness of all things.

        As finite humans we do not possess the foreknowledge of God and thus we are in no position to pass judgment over others.
        Of course, we are capable of distinguishing between good and bad deeds – however, without the omniscience of God, we cannot judge this person or that as being either good or bad (as demonstrated earlier). If anyone had seen Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) (PBUH) as he worshiped various planets and stars, as well as the moon and sun, before he at last came to worship the true God (as recorded in the Quran as well ancient Jewish scriptures), they would have considered him a “mushrik”—that is, an idolater or simply, an infidel. In fact, God Himself was pleased with Ibrahim since he was at least making a sincere effort to find the true God.

        Quran 6:75 And thus We gave Abraham [his first] insight into [God’s] mighty dominion over the heavens and the earth – and [this] to the end that he might become one of those who are inwardly sure.

        Quran 6:76 Then, when the night overshadowed him with its darkness, he beheld a star, [and] he exclaimed, “This is my Sustainer!” -but when it went down, he said, “I love not the things that go down.”

        Quran 6:77 Then, when he beheld the moon rising, he said, “This is my Sustainer!”-but when it went down, he said, “Indeed, if my Sustainer guide me not. I will most certainly become one of the people who go astray!”

        Quran 6:78 Then, when he beheld the sun rising, he said, “This is my Sustainer! This one is the greatest [of all]!” – but when it [too] went down, he exclaimed: “O my people! Behold, far be it from me to ascribe divinity, as you do, to aught beside God!

        Quran 6:79 Behold, unto Him who brought into being the heavens and the earth have I turned my face, having turned away from all that is false; and I am not of those who ascribe divinity to aught beside Him.”

        The search for Truth – the desire to find the Divine – is in and of itself a great deed, even if the individual seeker never ascertains absolute Truth. The act itself possesses great intrinsic value and is demonstrative of a willing heart.

        As God plainly reveals in his Holy Quran:
        Quran: 29:69 And those who strive in Our paths to find us (God)),- We will certainly guide them to our Paths: For verily God is with those who do right.

        From here, we should learn once and for all to never be judgmental against others but to leave judgment to God alone.
        Saiidna Issa (Jesus) PBUH is recorded in the scriptures as saying, “Judge not lest ye be judged…and by the same measure you judge others by, so too will you be judged.”
        Imagine how you would feel if you judged someone for their apparently bad deeds when, all the while, that person was suffering from a mental illness that influenced their negative actions? If this happened, it would be you who had sinned – who had truly committed a bad deed – for you passed judgment without knowing all the facts. It is for this very reason that God said to Prophet Mohamed in his Holy Quran :

        Quran 46:9 Say: “I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the apostles, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. God is the ONLY one who can judge humans.

        and what you are talking about in irak ,syria and so on ….i told you but you don t understand or you don t want to understand that wearing a beard and saying “allah akbar” is not enough to be a muslim you have tp be humain and respect humans ..so these barbars called isis are not muslims but terrorists and criminals like those conquistadires who destroy civilizations in mexico and peru in the name of the christ and remember the times of inquisition in europa ‘1231 until 1834) and the KKK in united states .are those criminals represented chrisitanism ?? yes or no? stop blaming islam please …blame humans who convince blinded people like you that they are killing in the name of islam ..we condemn these barbars they represent themselves ..we fought them in Algeria during 90 and they killed 200.000people so muslims were the first victims of the madness of human being …I am muslim do you think i am arrogant toward you? superior? i am just a human like tou ..respecting you because i am muslim and we believe in peace love and tolerance ….the real islam ..not what you see arounf you in some countries ….thank you

  25. mbplee

    “KAICI
    April 28, 2016
    exclusion and superiority ? you know “el fatiha “the first verset we read when we pray ..”el hamdoulillah rabi el alamine ” [All] praise is [due] to Allah , Lord of the worlds -lord of the worlds not of the muslims only ..lord of the christians and rhe jews and the universe
    One of the issues that we must bring to the fore is the fact that the Quran forbids us from judging others. This has been expressed clearly in many verses.”

    Kaici, I quote the above from you to show you how little understanding of Islam you have. You have been blinded with a lot of verses and words out of context. The Quran has already passed judgement on others:

    ” La ilaha illa Allah wa-Muhammad rasul Allah.

    There is no god but God (ALLAH) and Muhammad is the prophet of Allah. Sincere recitation of this confession of faith before of two Muslims is the sole requirement for those who wish to join the Muslim community. It represents acceptance not only of Allah and his prophet, but of the entirety of Islam. ”

    The Quran accepts Allah as ilah and no others thus judging Islam as the only religion acceptable and which must therefore be superior to all others. Actually there is no need for me to say any more, but:

    Allah will make disbelievers’ lives miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114
    Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don’t kill them.) 2:191-2
    Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop killing people. 2:193a

    That is sufficient to convince me that Allah means business. He excludes all non-Muslims and instructs Muslims to KILL them.

    Kaici, you also said,
    “stop blaming islam please …blame humans who convince blinded people like you that they are killing in the name of islam ..we condemn these barbars they represent themselves ..we fought them in Algeria during 90 and they killed 200.000people so muslims were the first victims of the madness of human being …I am muslim do you think i am arrogant toward you? superior? i am just a human like tou ..respecting you because i am muslim and we believe in peace love and tolerance ….the real islam ..not what you see arounf you in some countries …”

    All Qaeda, the Taliban, ISIL, have all acted and behaved in accordance with the teachings of the Quran, without exception. I could not fault them for violating any of the Quranic teachings. These people have followed the teachings of Islam to the letter T. They are the shaheeds of Islam and they are the Jihadists of Islam in accordance with the teachings of the Quran.

    Kaici, Yes, I believe you are arrogant towards me and all non-Muslims because you believe that you are right and I am wrong. Superior? Yes, because because you worship Allah and I do not. You do not believe in Peace, Love and Tolerance because the Quran does not preach this for non-Muslims.

    You should study Islam, the Quran, and History of Islam, the History of Muhammad and Islamic jurisprudence to really understand Islam. I believe you have been taught a perverted form of Islam. Your Islam is all Taqiyya, to justify your warped concept of Islam.

    • KAICI

      sorry for you ..i know my religion better than you and i realize that we can t discuss in serenity because you hate islam and you have not a level to discuss with me about islam .i was trying to be fair with you and give you explanations and teach you my religion but all i see is a sick person ..seems to me i am with a teenager ..!!

      • mbplee

        Kaici said,”sorry for you ..i know my religion better than you and i realize that we can t discuss in serenity because you hate islam and you have not a level to discuss with me about islam.”

        To me that sounds like arrogance and conceit. You are so brainwashed with Islam that no one is able to discuss with you about Islam. I have spent the last 18 years of my adult researching Islam vis-a vis Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism and even Judaism. I have an open mind about all the religions as I have made a comparative study of all of them some in greater detail than others. There is very little I do not know about Islam or Christianity or Taoism or Zoroastrianism. That is why I have to keep an open mind to compare these religions on the same basis. The sick people are the bigots of religion, not those who study it with an open mind.

      • mbplee

        The Devout Muslim, Loyal But Misguided

        Having had a long detailed discussion about Islam with a person referred too as Kaici, https://mbplee.wordpress.com/wp-admin/edit-comments.php , I would like to make my observations of what I believe is a faithful and loyal Muslim, in the eyes of Muslims.

        The link above shows that Kaici is a fairly well educated Muslim about Islam and is able to make many references. His defence of Islamic doctrine and Islamic Benevolence, is admirable, as has been the defence of Islam by all the other contributors. I would not have expected any less of them. Their devotion to Islam and Islamic principles is truly admirable. Their faith in the righteousness and benevolence of Islam is as to be expected of a faithful followers Islam.

        Kaici said,
        “Quran 6:79 Behold, unto Him who brought into being the heavens and the earth have I turned my face, having turned away from all that is false; and I am not of those who ascribe divinity to aught beside Him.”

        The search for Truth – the desire to find the Divine – is in and of itself a great deed, even if the individual seeker never ascertains absolute Truth. The act itself possesses great intrinsic value and is demonstrative of a willing heart.

        As God plainly reveals in his Holy Quran:
        Quran: 29:69 And those who strive in Our paths to find us (God)),- We will certainly guide them to our Paths: For verily God is with those who do right.

        From here, we should learn once and for all to never be judgmental against others but to leave judgment to God alone.
        Saiidna Issa (Jesus) PBUH is recorded in the scriptures as saying, “Judge not lest ye be judged…and by the same measure you judge others by, so too will you be judged.”
        Imagine how you would feel if you judged someone for their apparently bad deeds when, all the while, that person was suffering from a mental illness that influenced their negative actions? If this happened, it would be you who had sinned – who had truly committed a bad deed – for you passed judgment without knowing all the facts. It is for this very reason that God said to Prophet Mohamed in his Holy Quran :

        Quran 46:9 Say: “I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the apostles, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. God is the ONLY one who can judge humans.

        But then he (Kaici) makes this statement as Judge and Juror:

        sorry for you ..i know my religion better than you and i realize that we can t discuss in serenity because you hate islam and you have not a level to discuss with me about islam .i was trying to be fair with you and give you explanations and teach you my religion but all i see is a sick person ..seems to me i am with a teenager ..!!

        Yet, He has just played Allah’s role. Proving his “exclusivity, his superiority, his arrogance, and his inflexibility and bigotry.

        What is “A NEW-FANGLED DOCTRINE?” “God is the ONLY one who can judge.”

        So no one has the right to judge what I believe in any new fangled doctrines. In fact, no one on earth has ever proved the existence of Allah, or the God of Moses or Jesus Christ. All of the above are an act of faith, and a belief in legends based on ancient mythology. If you disagree, you have to prove me wrong.

        Kaici, you also said,
        “stop blaming islam please …blame humans who convince blinded people like you that they are killing in the name of islam ..we condemn these barbars they represent themselves ..we fought them in Algeria during 90 and they killed 200.000people so muslims were the first victims of the madness of human being …I am muslim do you think i am arrogant toward you? superior? i am just a human like tou ..respecting you because i am muslim and we believe in peace love and tolerance ….the real islam ..not what you see arounf you in some countries …”

        Reply: All Qaeda, the Taliban, ISIL, have all acted and behaved in accordance with the teachings of the Quran, without exception. I could not fault them for violating any of the Quranic teachings. These people have followed the teachings of Islam to the letter T. They are the shaheeds of Islam and they are the Jihadists of Islam in accordance with the teachings of the Quran.

        Kaici, You do not believe in Peace, Love and Tolerance because the Quran does not preach this for non-Muslims.

        You should study Islam, the Quran, and History of Islam, the History of Muhammad and Islamic jurisprudence to really understand Islam. I believe you have been taught a perverted form of Islam. Your Islam is all Taqiyya, to justify your warped concept of Islam. Your Islam are extracts of the Quran and all out of context of the tone of the Quran. The Quran advocates, DEATH TO INFIDELS.

        The Arabic word used to describe the ideal treatment of non-Muslims (shin-dal-dal) is the same word used in over 25 places in the Quran to describe how painful Allah has made Hell for them.

        Islamic law actually forbids formal Muslim charity (in the form of the zakat payment) from being used to meet the needs of non-believers.

        Allah intends for Muslims to triumph over unbelievers:
        And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way to triumph over believers [Pickthall – “any way of success”] (4:141)
        The only acceptable position of non-Muslims to Muslims is subjugation under Islamic rule:
        Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (9:29 Jizya is the money that non-Muslims must pay to their Muslim overlords in a pure Islamic state.)
        A common criticism of many Muslims is that they often behave arrogantly toward others. Now you know why.”

        Look around you, the world is in turmoil, killings, rape, genocide, millions of lives lost each day, and you claim that Islam preaches Peace and C|ompassion. It you are correct we should be living in peace, instead we are out to kill one another. What then is wrong with Islam because all the turmoil and unrest is coming out of Islam.

        Stop and Think on this and find an answer from within you. I believe your intentions are that of a typical good Muslim but you have been misguided by Quotes from the Quran that have been taken out of context. The Quran is a Holy Book of Absolute Totalitarian Supremacy or all Non-Muslims.

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